They could use frog DNA ...to fill the gaps in the genome sequence....wait....that's Jurassic Park. Wrong theme park, lol
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Bob Chapek Confirms Disney Will Overhaul Epcot
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DDLand
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“As we build upon its core mission of optimism and hope to inspire the world, the real will become fantastic and the fantastic will become real—in whole new ways at Epcot,”
~Bob Chapek
This guy doesn’t get it. When he talks about Epcot it’s literally laughable. He says the park’s mission is optimism and hope. A little vague don’t you think? More perplexing than that is how a raccoon with a potty mouth and a rat that likes to cook will inspire the world. That is an idea that will leave me puzzled for years to come. His incoherent ramblings would be comical if he wasn’t the one deciding the fate of this theme park.
I think no concept better illustrates the confusion Disney has for Epcot, better than the new nighttime spectacular.
From the Press Release:
It will celebrate how Disney music inspires people around the world...
EPCOT Center wasn’t conceived with a self centered or Disney Centric view. It was a celebration of all of humanity. Thus the desire for corporate partners and the support of international organizations. Disney would be like the conductor of a large orchestra. The piece would be led by Disney as governments, non profits, and corporations all joined in.
As big and exciting as Mickey Mouse and Snow White are, the Imagineering team behind EPCOT Center saw this as bigger. They were helping to realize the dream of a futurist and change the world while doing it. Sure it might have been hype or overzealousness, but they believed it. And people who believe in things do end up achieving the impossible. They create incredible things like American Adventure that pushed every limit of design. They come up with exciting stories like Spaceship Earth. They are the ones that work inhumane hours to turn a terrible swamp into a beautiful park.
They do make mistakes. When you’re trying to change the world, your batting average isn’t going to be 100%. But people will understand and even love the quirks.
We weren’t supposed to be inspired by Moana. We were supposed to be inspired by humanity. What we had done, what we’re doing, and what we were about to do.
Have you noticed that everyone is negative these days?
...May EPCOT Center entertain, inform and inspire and above all, may it instill a new sense of belief and pride in man's ability to shape a world that offers hope to people everywhere.
May it instill a sense of belief and pride in man’s ability to shape a world that offers hope to people everywhere.
That’s a mission Bob.
If you search the internet for Walt Disney and escapism, you’re bound to get a ton of results. Some have even criticized Disneyland for creating a place to escape. I myself have characterized Disney Parks as escapist destinations. But do you really think Walt Disney would create someplace to escape the world? Nope. Instead, he created a place to reorient ourselves and give us the courage go forward and change it.
“Disneyland is dedicated to the ideals, dreams, and hard facts that have created America...”
That DNA has been embedded in Disney up until Disney’s Animal Kingdom. When everyone else said they were sugarcoating reality, they ignored it. They knew what they were doing. They were changing the world.
But now Disney itself believes what people say about it. It’s a place to “escape.” Escape to a mindless world of raccoons, rats, and Frozen. And if you need help escaping the place you came to escape, the year long festivals provide the food and wine necessary to do just that too.
Please leave hard facts and ideals at the front door. Forget about the world. Have fun!
Have a Disney
Day!
~Bob Chapek
This guy doesn’t get it. When he talks about Epcot it’s literally laughable. He says the park’s mission is optimism and hope. A little vague don’t you think? More perplexing than that is how a raccoon with a potty mouth and a rat that likes to cook will inspire the world. That is an idea that will leave me puzzled for years to come. His incoherent ramblings would be comical if he wasn’t the one deciding the fate of this theme park.
I think no concept better illustrates the confusion Disney has for Epcot, better than the new nighttime spectacular.
From the Press Release:
It will celebrate how Disney music inspires people around the world...
EPCOT Center wasn’t conceived with a self centered or Disney Centric view. It was a celebration of all of humanity. Thus the desire for corporate partners and the support of international organizations. Disney would be like the conductor of a large orchestra. The piece would be led by Disney as governments, non profits, and corporations all joined in.
As big and exciting as Mickey Mouse and Snow White are, the Imagineering team behind EPCOT Center saw this as bigger. They were helping to realize the dream of a futurist and change the world while doing it. Sure it might have been hype or overzealousness, but they believed it. And people who believe in things do end up achieving the impossible. They create incredible things like American Adventure that pushed every limit of design. They come up with exciting stories like Spaceship Earth. They are the ones that work inhumane hours to turn a terrible swamp into a beautiful park.
They do make mistakes. When you’re trying to change the world, your batting average isn’t going to be 100%. But people will understand and even love the quirks.
We weren’t supposed to be inspired by Moana. We were supposed to be inspired by humanity. What we had done, what we’re doing, and what we were about to do.
Have you noticed that everyone is negative these days?
...May EPCOT Center entertain, inform and inspire and above all, may it instill a new sense of belief and pride in man's ability to shape a world that offers hope to people everywhere.
May it instill a sense of belief and pride in man’s ability to shape a world that offers hope to people everywhere.
That’s a mission Bob.
If you search the internet for Walt Disney and escapism, you’re bound to get a ton of results. Some have even criticized Disneyland for creating a place to escape. I myself have characterized Disney Parks as escapist destinations. But do you really think Walt Disney would create someplace to escape the world? Nope. Instead, he created a place to reorient ourselves and give us the courage go forward and change it.
“Disneyland is dedicated to the ideals, dreams, and hard facts that have created America...”
That DNA has been embedded in Disney up until Disney’s Animal Kingdom. When everyone else said they were sugarcoating reality, they ignored it. They knew what they were doing. They were changing the world.
But now Disney itself believes what people say about it. It’s a place to “escape.” Escape to a mindless world of raccoons, rats, and Frozen. And if you need help escaping the place you came to escape, the year long festivals provide the food and wine necessary to do just that too.
Please leave hard facts and ideals at the front door. Forget about the world. Have fun!
Have a Disney
Day!
Sharon&Susan
Well-Known Member
“What we are selling is not escapism, but reassurance.”-John Hench
sedati
Well-Known Member
"To say that MK has just had the barest of attention over the years is revisionist history."
Yup, that's why I didn't say it. What I said was that it COULD survive periods with only the barest attention and still thrive. I did not mean to imply that nothing has happened or evolved over its 50 years. And I do believe to call a park successful it needs to remain popular even when stagnant.
You use Space Mountain as an example of an attraction in need of maintenance, but it still seems as popular as ever. Did Horizons fare as well with such neglect?
Tomorrowland as a whole did age the worst which makes the decision to make a park that was 1/2 Tomorrowland all the more baffling.
sedati
Well-Known Member
Yet guests seem more comfortable waiting longer times for those shorter attractions. What's more, most will do so repeatedly. The time one may devote to Guardians on a future trip could conceivably exceed the time spent in all of Future World East back in EPCOT Center's heyday.
Now it's a hypothetical, but let's say UoE got the standard refub instead of the Guardians gutting that it's getting. After the surge of locals and bloggers on the first day, what kind of lines do you imagine that 40 minute attraction might be pulling in after just a year? Let's say a twenty minute wait out in the blazing Orlando sun (no real queue was ever made for this ride.) So maybe an hour total experience. Do you think the lines and ride time for Guardians will drop to an hour one year in? And again, which experience is more likely to garner repeat rides?
I'm not saying one is better than the other, just trying to give perspective.
sedati
Well-Known Member
Yet Moana's song seems almost hard-core when pitted against the likes of "Tomorrow's Child."“As we build upon its core mission of optimism and hope to inspire the world, the real will become fantastic and the fantastic will become real—in whole new ways at Epcot,”
~Bob Chapek
This guy doesn’t get it. When he talks about Epcot it’s literally laughable. He says the park’s mission is optimism and hope. A little vague don’t you think? More perplexing than that is how a raccoon with a potty mouth and a rat that likes to cook will inspire the world. That is an idea that will leave me puzzled for years to come. His incoherent ramblings would be comical if he wasn’t the one deciding the fate of this theme park.
I think no concept better illustrates the confusion Disney has for Epcot, better than the new nighttime spectacular.
From the Press Release:
It will celebrate how Disney music inspires people around the world...
EPCOT Center wasn’t conceived with a self centered or Disney Centric view. It was a celebration of all of humanity. Thus the desire for corporate partners and the support of international organizations. Disney would be like the conductor of a large orchestra. The piece would be led by Disney as governments, non profits, and corporations all joined in.
As big and exciting as Mickey Mouse and Snow White are, the Imagineering team behind EPCOT Center saw this as bigger. They were helping to realize the dream of a futurist and change the world while doing it. Sure it might have been hype or overzealousness, but they believed it. And people who believe in things do end up achieving the impossible. They create incredible things like American Adventure that pushed every limit of design. They come up with exciting stories like Spaceship Earth. They are the ones that work inhumane hours to turn a terrible swamp into a beautiful park.
They do make mistakes. When you’re trying to change the world, your batting average isn’t going to be 100%. But people will understand and even love the quirks.
We weren’t supposed to be inspired by Moana. We were supposed to be inspired by humanity. What we had done, what we’re doing, and what we were about to do.
Have you noticed that everyone is negative these days?
...May EPCOT Center entertain, inform and inspire and above all, may it instill a new sense of belief and pride in man's ability to shape a world that offers hope to people everywhere.
May it instill a sense of belief and pride in man’s ability to shape a world that offers hope to people everywhere.
That’s a mission Bob.
If you search the internet for Walt Disney and escapism, you’re bound to get a ton of results. Some have even criticized Disneyland for creating a place to escape. I myself have characterized Disney Parks as escapist destinations. But do you really think Walt Disney would create someplace to escape the world? Nope. Instead, he created a place to reorient ourselves and give us the courage go forward and change it.
“Disneyland is dedicated to the ideals, dreams, and hard facts that have created America...”
That DNA has been embedded in Disney up until Disney’s Animal Kingdom. When everyone else said they were sugarcoating reality, they ignored it. They knew what they were doing. They were changing the world.
But now Disney itself believes what people say about it. It’s a place to “escape.” Escape to a mindless world of raccoons, rats, and Frozen. And if you need help escaping the place you came to escape, the year long festivals provide the food and wine necessary to do just that too.
Please leave hard facts and ideals at the front door. Forget about the world. Have fun!
Have a Disney
https://www.disneyclips.com/lyrics/moana-how-far-ill-go.html
http://www.intercot.com/edc/SpaceshipEarth/sptomschild.html
And honestly, both are pleas for taking the next step. Sure one is selling dolls and tee-shirts, but the other was selling phones.
And what if that refurb was a Guardians overlay with completely new technology and storyline, just keeping the original buildings format?
We’ll never know.
“As we build upon its core mission of optimism and hope to inspire the world, the real will become fantastic and the fantastic will become real—in whole new ways at Epcot,”
~Bob Chapek
This guy doesn’t get it. When he talks about Epcot it’s literally laughable. He says the park’s mission is optimism and hope. A little vague don’t you think? More perplexing than that is how a raccoon with a potty mouth and a rat that likes to cook will inspire the world. That is an idea that will leave me puzzled for years to come. His incoherent ramblings would be comical if he wasn’t the one deciding the fate of this theme park.
I think no concept better illustrates the confusion Disney has for Epcot, better than the new nighttime spectacular.
From the Press Release:
It will celebrate how Disney music inspires people around the world...
EPCOT Center wasn’t conceived with a self centered or Disney Centric view. It was a celebration of all of humanity. Thus the desire for corporate partners and the support of international organizations. Disney would be like the conductor of a large orchestra. The piece would be led by Disney as governments, non profits, and corporations all joined in.
As big and exciting as Mickey Mouse and Snow White are, the Imagineering team behind EPCOT Center saw this as bigger. They were helping to realize the dream of a futurist and change the world while doing it. Sure it might have been hype or overzealousness, but they believed it. And people who believe in things do end up achieving the impossible. They create incredible things like American Adventure that pushed every limit of design. They come up with exciting stories like Spaceship Earth. They are the ones that work inhumane hours to turn a terrible swamp into a beautiful park.
They do make mistakes. When you’re trying to change the world, your batting average isn’t going to be 100%. But people will understand and even love the quirks.
We weren’t supposed to be inspired by Moana. We were supposed to be inspired by humanity. What we had done, what we’re doing, and what we were about to do.
Have you noticed that everyone is negative these days?
...May EPCOT Center entertain, inform and inspire and above all, may it instill a new sense of belief and pride in man's ability to shape a world that offers hope to people everywhere.
May it instill a sense of belief and pride in man’s ability to shape a world that offers hope to people everywhere.
That’s a mission Bob.
If you search the internet for Walt Disney and escapism, you’re bound to get a ton of results. Some have even criticized Disneyland for creating a place to escape. I myself have characterized Disney Parks as escapist destinations. But do you really think Walt Disney would create someplace to escape the world? Nope. Instead, he created a place to reorient ourselves and give us the courage go forward and change it.
“Disneyland is dedicated to the ideals, dreams, and hard facts that have created America...”
That DNA has been embedded in Disney up until Disney’s Animal Kingdom. When everyone else said they were sugarcoating reality, they ignored it. They knew what they were doing. They were changing the world.
But now Disney itself believes what people say about it. It’s a place to “escape.” Escape to a mindless world of raccoons, rats, and Frozen. And if you need help escaping the place you came to escape, the year long festivals provide the food and wine necessary to do just that too.
Please leave hard facts and ideals at the front door. Forget about the world. Have fun!
Have a Disney
Well said.
Quoting for posterity.
jaxonp
Well-Known Member
How long was energy? 40 min or so? That’s about 35 min wasted on a ride that could be taken up by time spending it on food and merch. /executivethoughtprocess
trainplane3
Well-Known Member
And suddenly I'm imagining a bunch of small trackless vehicles replacing the large moving theater cars and the diorama being replaced with a course for the vehicles to navigate all while keeping theater one intact. Just having a wild imagination...
Despite what he's said about "timeless", there's little being currently done under Chapek that falls into that category. Someone needs to remind Chappie of this - Nothing has a shorter shelf life than "hip." I've mentioned that before, because replacing today's "hip" with tomorrow's "hip" is going to cost them a TON more money, and we all know how apt they are to spend a dollar more than they have to. The sad part is, they've ripped out things that were "timeless", all they needed was updating and some TLC.
Rich Brownn
Well-Known Member
Well, they just weren't updated often enough. It fell into the "we've seen that a zillion times" category. (Remember it's insperation was the NY World's Fair, where the pavilions weren't around long enough to be repeated). But the first few years, the lines for future world attractions (especially WoM and Imagination) was the stuff of legends."But those rides were so booorrrinnnggg..."
I honestly believe that most guests these days leave their brains at home and once they enter the parks, they want only thrills. Nothing inspirational, nothing requiring thought, just thrill rides. And Chapek and his minions are right there wanting to give that to them, catering wholeheartedly to that lowest common denominator while charging them a small fortune for it.
Rich Brownn
Well-Known Member
<looks at the 16-minute version of Pirates at Disneyland...>
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Can’t not do the Gordon Gecko macho take, huh?
They are not emphasizing “out of lines and into shops” anymore...the game is simply to charge you more at the gate. The restaurants aren’t even full...so what’s the point?
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Chappie is a Chinese sweatshop junk peddler. Doesn’t belong there but will work for the pay and lack of advancement...
He’s paul pressler with less of a soul
That’s an.... interesting observationChappie is a Chinese sweatshop junk peddler. Doesn’t belong there but will work for the pay and lack of advancement...
He’s paul pressler with less of a soul
Nmoody1
Well-Known Member
Less soul than Paul Pressler? B U R N!Chappie is a Chinese sweatshop junk peddler. Doesn’t belong there but will work for the pay and lack of advancement...
He’s paul pressler with less of a soul
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
But am I wrong? He’s given more oversight and shows up to work with a 10 gallon can and a match he could use at any moment really...his entire career has been about reducing quality for margins.
They don’t have any leadership for the future...that’s why a vulture like him picks at the carcass