Blizzard Beach Construction

[raymusiccity]

I kind of think the outrage over this is a little more like Disney excluding most of the most well-known Star Wars characters and stories from Galaxy's Edge or popular PatF songs and characters from Tiana's Bayou Adventure in order to serve the backstory. That does result in a more cohesive themed environment, but YMMV as to whether that results in a better theme park land or attraction.

Disney has a kind of loose and silly backstory involving a snowfall in Florida for this park and a massively popular movie set in the snow. Disney banishing characters from that film (or pretty much any film) from the park entirely because everything there has to fit the storyline of a Florida snowstorm would, at least in my view, be another sign they've lost the plot. Particularly as we're just talking about a toddler area.

Most kids don't think, or even know about the 'plot' of Blizzard Beach. Frozen = no harm, no foul in most eyes.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You know damn well they're just itching to rebrand the park as a Frozen park and this is just the test.

That would be a possibility and it would be a Shame if they did

 

[Epcot82Guy]

I mean they already bridged the Frozen Blizzard Beach Gap a while ago...

I would actually argue that was a better thematic bridge than this one in its current form. Though I would argue that was also insertion - not bridging.

Again, the argument isn't the use of the characters. While I personally think it's unnecessary and WAY overkill, I understand why the kiddos would like to see characters in the kids area. It's HOW they are being implemented, not THAT they are being implemented - in this case.

 

[Disney Analyst]

I disagree on both counts. I think such a retheme would be more trouble and expense than it’s worth, and I think we would lose something very fun and whimsical if it were to happen.

I mean, no clue if they would or not... but I really could still see them slowly adding more Frozen elements, until they make it fully tied to the IP.

They may not, it could just be the one little bit.

Or it could become the next Pixar Pier.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I mean, no clue if they would or not... but I really could still see them slowly adding more Frozen elements, until they make it fully tied to the IP.

They may not, it could just be the one little bit.

Or it could become the next Pixar Pier.

The dangers in that…as we all should know…is them adding paint, signs and concrete statues and nothing else. Which is just IP on tired park attractions.

And it’s not needed. Blizzard was a great WDI idea. An expansion on the genius of typhoon.

It worked then and now.

Not only that…the frozen thing is just like all the others now. People swore it was “different”…it wasn’t just like “beauty and the little sleeping Cinderella”.

It is what it is. Solid Disney…not in need of shoving it.

Build me a tangled ride in studios if you want to be productive, ok?

 

[LittleBuford]

I mean, no clue if they would or not... but I really could still see them slowly adding more Frozen elements, until they make it fully tied to the IP.

They may not, it could just be the one little bit.

Or it could become the next Pixar Pier.

I don’t really see what purpose adding more IP would serve. The ski-resort theme is pretty fleshed out and doesn’t provide a particularly natural base for a Frozen overlay. A few characters in a paddling pool is very different from repurposing Summit Plummet, which would have to be extensively redesigned.

 

[Disney Analyst]

I don’t really see what purpose adding more IP would serve. The ski-resort theme is pretty fleshed out and doesn’t provide a particularly natural base for a Frozen overlay. A few characters in a paddling pool is very different from repurposing Summit Plummet, which would have to be extensively redesigned.

I honestly think if they did it... it would mostly just be backstory changes, and adding more figures / motifs like in the kiddie pool.

"Elsa found the perfect spot to mix snow and warmth" ...

 

[flynnibus]

I don’t really see what purpose adding more IP would serve. The ski-resort theme is pretty fleshed out and doesn’t provide a particularly natural base for a Frozen overlay. A few characters in a paddling pool is very different from repurposing Summit Plummet, which would have to be extensively redesigned.

You've obviously missed the lesson on

Give them an inch and they'll take a mile

I mean... examples were just listed out and you're like 'oh no, this is all just little isolated adds here and there'. Meanwhile... EPCOT has lost it's entire identify while you idled about.

 

[flynnibus]

I honestly think if they did it... it would mostly just be backstory changes, and adding more figures / motifs like in the kiddie pool.

"Elsa found the perfect spot to mix snow and warmth" ...

A few scandic panels added here and there... signage... retheme the building exteriors. Done!

 

[SaucyBoy]

You’re conflating theme and setting. You can have a common theme without a common setting.

That's like, literally, a basic educational concept that's taught in elementary school. It's telling, although not surprising, there are adults on this forum who cannot differentiate between theme and setting.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I don’t really see what purpose adding more IP would serve. The ski-resort theme is pretty fleshed out and doesn’t provide a particularly natural base for a Frozen overlay. A few characters in a paddling pool is very different from repurposing Summit Plummet, which would have to be extensively redesigned.

That’s what I’m saying…

…because they would retheme much. Take the gators out, call it “arendale falls” or some other stupidity.

I think this is just what it is…not prelude to anything significant

 

[LittleBuford]

You've obviously missed the lesson on

Give them an inch and they'll take a mile

I mean... examples were just listed out and you're like 'oh no, this is all just little isolated adds here and there'. Meanwhile... EPCOT has lost it's entire identify while you idled about.

I also listed examples (Pirates, Disneyland’s it’s a small world) that backed up my assessment. I believe this example fits those precedents; you believe a more extensive retheme is possible or likely. Both of us are simply guessing at this point, and neither of us is infallible. If time proves you right, I will gladly apologise and join you in condemning the loss of Blizzard Beach as we know it.

 

[LittleBuford]

That’s what I’m saying…

…because they would retheme much. Take the gators out, call it “arendale falls” or some other stupidity.

I think this is just what it is…not prelude to anything significant

I don’t think they stand to gain anything by such a move and would be extremely surprised if something like this happened. I can see them doing an IP overlay one day should they have a film that fits the ski-resort theme, but Frozen isn’t it.

 

[Chi84]

You've obviously missed the lesson on

Give them an inch and they'll take a mile

I mean... examples were just listed out and you're like 'oh no, this is all just little isolated adds here and there'. Meanwhile... EPCOT has lost it's entire identify while you idled about.

Idled about as opposed to what?

 

[LittleBuford]

Idled about as opposed to what?

Campaigning outside the gates, perhaps, or else posting angrily about it here.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I don’t think they stand to gain anything by such a move and would be extremely surprised if something like this happened. I can see them doing an IP overlay one day should they have a film that fits the ski-resort theme, but Frozen isn’t it.

Still…we have to be suspect of all moves, don’t we?

Who are we talking about here?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Idled about as opposed to what?

Not demanding more IP and trusting Iger…I think is the suggestion?

I think?

I think “frozen” hit a nerve here. Nobody complained about it when it went into Epcot…enough…and now we have marvel rollercoasters and a princess fountain going in.

I’m not debating the quality of those efforts…but thematically it’s completely wrong. Hard to debate that.

 

[flynnibus]

Idled about as opposed to what?

Awareness vs obtuse blindness.

 

[Chi84]

Awareness vs obtuse blindness.

But idling about is an action (or rather inaction). What do you propose the aware people do? Complain on a Disney board? Because people have that covered

 

[LittleBuford]

Still…we have to be suspect of all moves, don’t we?

Who are we talking about here?

I generally think people are a bit too suspicious on these boards.