Black Widow moves to 2021

[Jedijax719]

Between Doctor Strange and Homecoming is where I'd put Black Widow's box office results. Of course, without CoVID, it would probably be closer to Captain Marvel or Far From Home, but being between the other two is still extremely strong (considering that it is still going to bring in a pretty penny from PA that Disney gets to keep).

Ironically, being released on both D+ and at theaters will probably give Disney more take-home than just theaters would.

 

[DCBaker]

"FRIDAY AM UPDATE: Refresh for more analysis No, streaming hasn’t killed theatrical just yet, and those exhibitors who’ve gone hungry over the last year and half, received lots of bread last night. Disney/Marvel’s Black Widow kicked off its previews at 5PM earning a huge $13.2M, easily the best preview night to date during the pandemic besting Universal’s F9 ($7.1M) and Paramount’s A Quiet Place Part II ($4.8M).

Black Widow‘s Thursday night is ahead of such Marvel movies as 2018’s Ant-Man and the Wasp ($11.5M), 2014’s Guardians of the Galaxy ($11.2M) as well as Warner Bros/DC’s Wonder Woman in 2017 ($11M). Ant-Man and the Wasp‘s Thursday night represented 34% of its $33.7M opening day which yielded a $75.8M opening while Guardians of the Galaxy’s Thursday repped a third of its $37.8M Friday for a $94.3M opening. Wonder Woman wound up getting a lift over its opening weekend from its female fanbase who were hungering for the DC superhero’s big screen debut. We’ll see if there’s a similar turnout by females over the weekend for Black Widow. Wonder Woman‘s Thursday made up 29% of its $38.2M Friday, for a $103.2M opening weekend."

Disney Claims $215M+ WW Victory At The B.O. & Disney+ Premier With ‘Black Widow’ Weekend: Will Distrib Model Endanger A Movie’s Life Cycle? – Update

SUNDAY AM Final: The Walt Disney Company sent out a widespread announcement that Black Widow made $215M-plus WW this weekend: Broken down, that’s $80M at the domestic box office, $78M in international box office, and over $60M in Disney+ Premier Access consumer spend globally. I understand that...

deadline.com

 

[erasure fan1]

But wait, I've been told by posters here that this movie (and the next several) is going to flop. That the MCU is dead, and that no one is interested in superhero films anymore. How can they be wrong when they clearly know how the public feels about the MCU.....

I don’t recall a lot of there isn't interest in superhero films anymore. There has been a noticeable decline in enthusiasm for the MCU, but that doesn't necessarily equate to the next couple movies floping. We've seen every MCU movie in the theaters since the avengers. When I asked my wife and daughter about seeing Widow, both said they weren't interested. I'm sure the movie will do fine. But I've seen a lot more people saying they aren't going to see it. Of course that could be just a lot of talk.

 

[Disney Irish]

I don’t recall a lot of there isn't interest in superhero films anymore. There has been a noticeable decline in enthusiasm for the MCU, but that doesn't necessarily equate to the next couple movies floping. We've seen every MCU movie in the theaters since the avengers. When I asked my wife and daughter about seeing Widow, both said they weren't interested. I'm sure the movie will do fine. But I've seen a lot more people saying they aren't going to see it. Of course that could be just a lot of talk.

There's been a vocal few posters around here claiming for a long time now that there is super hero fatigue, that the public is doesn't care about the MCU anymore. And that MCU movies starting with BW and continuing with Eternals and Shang-Chi will flop. My point is that anecdotal evidence is not evidence, the box office is. And if the box office so far is any indication those saying the public aren't interested are looking to be wrong.

Also remember that its also available on D+ Premier Access, so just because someone may not see it in theaters doesn't mean they won't see it. And that is all 100% profit for Disney.

 

[Disney Irish]

I saw it at Midnight, and I thought it was good. Falls right in-line with the other spy MCU movies like Winter Solider.

I won't give anything away here, but the end credit scene alone is worth watching it, sets up the next chapter of the MCU.

 

[Jedijax719]

I've seen a lot of postings (not necessarily here but in other places) saying that if BW doesn't make this or that in the theater then it's a disappointment. I've also seen people in other places and articles on the lines of "OMG, this movie may only make as much as Doctor Strange or even Ant Man and Wasp-the travesty". None of these articles or posters take any account for the pandemic, restrictions in seating, the fact that Canada still has many of its theaters on lockdown, and the fact that there is a tropical storm flooding many parts of the northeast. This is all not to mention that anyone with D+ can order it for their families for $30 and save the hassle of theaters, food, etc., that would cost more in most cases. From my perspective, the $85-$90 it will probably make (maybe more) this weekend is an immense triumph. Add to that the fact that anything it makes on D+ (which will be more than any other PA release) will go straight into Marvel/Disney's pocket. Total revenues will end up being quite a bit more than it likely would have been in just theaters.

WW, if it makes $150 million this weekend, Disney's take-home would be approximately $75 million. Then, if 10% of D+ subscribers buy it, that would add another $300 million. That's $375 million in the bank.

If it weren't released on D+ and the same number of people all went to the theater (unlikely), it would bring in a "take-home" of $225 million for Disney (assuming 50% of revenue goes to the theater on average).

 

[NateD1226]

Black Widow has received an A- CinemaScore. To put this perspective, the other 4 MCU movies to get an A- CinemaScore are The Incredible Hulk, Thor: The Dark World, Ant-Man and The Wasp, and Captain America: The First Avenger.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Black Widow will be on Disney+ for all subscribers October 6.

 

[ppet]

I thought it was a very enjoyable movie, It was playing on a lot of screens in my local theater. not many seats left, I ended up in the wheelchair accessible row that I try to avoid for two reasons, one leave it to groups who need it and it's the row everyone walks in front of.

 

[DCBaker]

"The Walt Disney Company announced today that Marvel Studios’ Black Widow debuted to an estimated total of more than $215M globally this weekend, including $80M in domestic box office, $78M in international box office, and over $60M in Disney+ Premier Access consumer spend globally.

The film garnered several notable achievements in its opening weekend, including:

Black Widow is the largest domestic box office opening since the COVID-19 pandemic began and the largest domestic opening weekend since Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker in December 2019.

The combined theatrical and Disney+ Premier Access opening makes Black Widow the only film to surpass $100M in domestic consumer spend on opening weekend since the start of the pandemic.

It is the highest domestic opening weekend for a Marvel Cinematic Universe origin story after Black Panther and Captain Marvel."

Disney Claims $215M+ WW Victory At The B.O. & Disney+ Premier With ‘Black Widow’ Weekend: Will Distrib Model Endanger A Movie’s Life Cycle? – Update

SUNDAY AM Final: The Walt Disney Company sent out a widespread announcement that Black Widow made $215M-plus WW this weekend: Broken down, that’s $80M at the domestic box office, $78M in international box office, and over $60M in Disney+ Premier Access consumer spend globally. I understand that...

deadline.com

 

[Jedijax719]

Strong opening weekend. There's absolutely no way to determine how many of those who purchased PA would have actually gone to the theater. I assume it would only be a portion of those since many probably couldn't or wouldn't get out to the theater. However, considering that many of the purchases were for families, that may balance them out.

The movie will almost certainly make over $200 million domestic. It will probably make over $500 million WW. That is not including total D+ purchases. It's a win either way.

 

[BrianLo]

Honestly, from Disney’s internal earning perspectives, this makes Black widow fairly equivalent to an old 200mil domestic opening.

I’d say this is the first return to true pre-pandemic blockbuster earnings we’ve seen. There’s a reason this is the first movie they’ve disclosed true D+ numbers for

 

[waltography]

Was part of the $60m that bought Premier Access to the movie and it really was worth it. I might even try to catch it in the theaters for the final fight sequence alone, as I’m sure it looks great on a large screen.

 

[LSLS]

I liked this movie. But, I feel like it could have been more. Like, I probably have it around my 10th favorite, but had it been edited/directed a bit better, it would have been top 5. Yelena was completely the star for me.

 

[MisterPenguin]

 

[Darkprime]

 

[doctornick]

I would absolutely love to see a Red Guardian movie or series. Or something like a Winter Guard movie/series with the likes of Crimson Dynamo (who was referenced in this movie).

As an aside, was the one guy he was arm wrestling supposed to be a reference to Ursa Major, the character who can change into a bear? I know he was called Ursa but wasn't sure if that was meant to be just his name, a small joke/reference, or actually a setup for a future appearance.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

I don’t recall a lot of there isn't interest in superhero films anymore. There has been a noticeable decline in enthusiasm for the MCU, but that doesn't necessarily equate to the next couple movies floping. We've seen every MCU movie in the theaters since the avengers. When I asked my wife and daughter about seeing Widow, both said they weren't interested. I'm sure the movie will do fine. But I've seen a lot more people saying they aren't going to see it. Of course that could be just a lot of talk.

How on earth can anyone claim there been a decline in MCU interest? Endgame was the biggest movie of all time and the Disney+ shows have high viewership.

There is literally no reason to say interest in MCU or superhero movies has declined.

Of course, when Black Widow makes less money than Endgame because of COVID and not being as much of an MCU event movie, people will point to that as "evidence".

Even Captain Marvel is an unfair comparison because it benefitted from Disney's cleverly releasing it right before Endgame, making people believe they had to see it in the theater to know the full story.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

I watched this movie at home and enjoyed it. Marvel movies are consistently high quality and entertaining. Black Widow is no exception and I rank it somewhere in the middle as an "average" MCU movie.

 

[doctornick]

How on earth can anyone claim there been a decline in MCU interest?

It's anecdotal for some. And in my anecdotal experience, I think it is largely people taking their own personal feeling of boredom or fatigue with the franchise - if they were even that interested in it to begin with - and projecting among others. On the flip side, the number of viewers that saw Infinity War/Endgame as cultural events and are now more interested in the MCU than they were before has got to be at least somewhat significant.

The numbers for the streaming shows and the opening weekend for BW support the idea that there is still plenty of interest in the MCU. Is it "less" than there was for a film that made over $2.7 billion worldwide? I mean, okay, sure. But less interest in the MCU right now than there was in (say) 2016 to pick a random timeframe? I don't really see how anyone could suggest that with any confidence.