Black Widow moves to 2021

Sirwalterraleigh

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Right?! Disney probably shouldn’t have been bragging so much after Black Widow’s first weekend. I think it came across as a little obnoxious and may have P’d some people off.

I wonder how many people don’t even realize that Boo Bash is not a rebranding of Not So Scary and are getting less for their bucks…
All of them…but junkies don’t mind the price for their fix and can’t fight it
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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GimpYancIent

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Oh well. Looks like Natasha Romanoff (Black Widow) will be allowed to fade away and the next action packed woman will be her character sister Velena Bulova to eclipse her.
 

Wendy Pleakley

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This article may be more rumour than anything, but this case is significant because Marvel recently said they were moving away from long-term contracts, and letting the actors decide whether or not to continue in the MCU and to what degree. If stars walk away, it makes it less likely they'll be able to pull off events like Endgame as effectively.


“[Feige is] a company man, and prone to corporate showdowns or shouting matches. But I’m told he’s angry and embarrassed,” Belloni reports. “He lobbied Disney against the day-and-date plan for Black Widow, preferring the big screen exclusivity and not wanting to upset his talent.”
 

THE 1HAPPY HAUNT

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More drama...


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Sirwalterraleigh

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Just because she is suing doesn't mean she is right or even owed anything, no matter what you personally believe. Anyone can sue anyone in this country, they don't have to be "right" to do it.
THe article penger posted above explains it pretty well…

this is angling for a settlement, for sure. Let’s see who blinks?

On another note…you have a point…i’m Suing Rian johnson tomorrow 🤪
 
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THE 1HAPPY HAUNT

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Just because she is suing doesn't mean she is right or even owed anything, no matter what you personally believe. Anyone can sue anyone in this country, they don't have to be "right" to do it.
She is totally in the right on this one. She even tried to settle it behind closed doors and Disney ignored her and her attorneys. Then after the lawsuit yesterday Disney had the gull to say she doesn't care about the pandemic when they have let go of over 30,000 employees during the pandemic. If you check other non disney fan sites but movie sites in general and read those comments, Disney is looking like the villain here and is getting roasted.
 

Disney Irish

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I doubt after Disney tried to throw her under the bus by crying "we're in a pandemic, Karen" that ScarJo would want to work with Disney either. Weirdly personal on Disney's part to do that.

You'd be surprised how much talent doesn't realize how their actions have a ripple effect in the industry. Not to mention that other studios are watching this and may decide to not work with her either after this.
 

Disney Irish

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She is totally in the right on this one.
You're entitled to that opinion, but from a legal standpoint that is not for you or I to decide. Its up to a judge and juror if it goes to trial. But as others have said this smells more like an attempt to get a settlement rather than an actual attempt to go to trail.

She even tried to settle it behind closed doors and Disney ignored her and her attorneys.
If you believe what her attorneys have to say. Can't always trust what they provide in a statement, just the same as you can't trust what Disney says in a statement either.

I've read the actual brief filed in court. And the excerpt of the contract ScarJo's lawyers provided don't state unequivocally that its was a exclusive theaters only release, just an assumption of such based on the words "wide theater release". Contract law is very exact for a reason. Terms matter, and there is a difference in using the term "wide" and assuming it means exclusive when the contract clearly defined the term to mean more than 1500 theaters. Which is exactly what Disney did, released it to over 4100 theaters. Because there was no provision for theater exclusivity Disney is likely in their rights to distribute the film however they want as long as they meet the wide release provision, which they did. You can't go back and rewrite the contract just because you didn't like how the results turned out, that will likely be the argument made by Disney lawyers in court.

I can't say how a judge (or mediator) would rule on this, just using common sense based on my limited understanding of contract law.

Then after the lawsuit yesterday Disney had the gull to say she doesn't care about the pandemic when they have let go of over 30,000 employees during the pandemic.
Welcome to Corporate PR. They of course are going to spin it, what did you expect.

If you check other non disney fan sites but movie sites in general and read those comments, Disney is looking like the villain here and is getting roasted.
And so what. Disney has been viewed as a villain in different parts of the Interwebs since the beginning. No big surprise.
 

THE 1HAPPY HAUNT

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You're entitled to that opinion, but from a legal standpoint that is not for you or I to decide. Its up to a judge and juror if it goes to trial. But as others have said this smells more like an attempt to get a settlement rather than an actual attempt to go to trail.


If you believe what her attorneys have to say. Can't always trust what they provide in a statement, just the same as you can't trust what Disney says in a statement either.

I've read the actual brief filed in court. And the excerpt of the contract ScarJo's lawyers provided don't state unequivocally that its was a exclusive theaters only release, just an assumption of such based on the words "wide theater release". Contract law is very exact for a reason. Terms matter, and there is a difference in using the term "wide" and assuming it means exclusive when the contract clearly defined the term to mean more than 1500 theaters. Which is exactly what Disney did, released it to over 4100 theaters. Because there was no provision for theater exclusivity Disney is likely in their rights to distribute the film however they want as long as they meet the wide release provision, which they did. You can't go back and rewrite the contract just because you didn't like how the results turned out, that will likely be the argument made by Disney lawyers in court.

I can't say how a judge (or mediator) would rule on this, just using common sense based on my limited understanding of contract law.


Welcome to Corporate PR. They of course are going to spin it, what did you expect.


And so what. Disney has been viewed as a villain in different parts of the Interwebs since the beginning. No big surprise.
1. Premier Pass was something that did not exist when she created her contract. Nor did Disney know they were going to do that or it would have been in the contract. Disney panicked during the pandemic and created it. Disney can't just release a new movie on its platform and cut into the box office earnings without compensation for their actors.

2. Disney saying she does not care about the pandemic is a low blow and cheap shot and dirty. It makes them look petty and will hurt future actors working with them. That Tower of Terror movie is not happening with her now.
 

waltography

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You'd be surprised how much talent doesn't realize how their actions have a ripple effect in the industry. Not to mention that other studios are watching this and may decide to not work with her either after this.
I'm not surprised at all that talent's blacklisted in Hollywood, and I'm sure ScarJo and crew know they're rankling a few execs right now across Hollywood. I think just as many eyes are on Disney, however, and whether they choose to escalate this or not. WB settled pretty quickly; Disney seems to be digging in. We can only wait and see how it fares for them.
 

Disney Irish

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THe article penger posted above explains it pretty well…
I read it, and it goes over the points I've already made which is the contract looks to say that "wide release" means over 1500 theaters not theater exclusivity.. So its now a wait and see.

this is angling for a settlement, for sure. Let’s see who blinks?
I agree, its looking like this was all done for some type of settlement.

On another note…you have a point…i’m Suing Rian johnson tomorrow 🤪
You wouldn't be the first to think of this....
 

THE 1HAPPY HAUNT

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I'm not surprised at all that talent's blacklisted in Hollywood, and I'm sure ScarJo and crew know they're rankling a few execs right now across Hollywood. I think just as many eyes are on Disney, however, and whether they choose to escalate this or not. WB settled pretty quickly; Disney seems to be digging in. We can only wait and see how it fares for them.
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Sirwalterraleigh

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I'm not surprised at all that talent's blacklisted in Hollywood, and I'm sure ScarJo and crew know they're rankling a few execs right now across Hollywood. I think just as many eyes are on Disney, however, and whether they choose to escalate this or not. WB settled pretty quickly; Disney seems to be digging in. We can only wait and see how it fares for them.
She’s one of the top grossing/earning women in Hollywood over the last decade…she certainly wouldn’t do this if it weren’t the case…

…and If emily blunt were to follow suit (she never seemed too pleased with Disney)…that would be an interesting movement.
 
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THE 1HAPPY HAUNT

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She’s one of the top grossing/earning women in Hollywood over the last decade…she certainly wouldn’t do this is if it weren’t the case…

…and If emily blunt were to follow suit (she never seemed to pleased with Disney)…that would be an interesting movement.
Blunt may do this because it almost happened to her on QUIET PLACE 2 but the studio and her handled it quietly, which Disney does not even seem willing to do. ScarJo opened the flood gates for actors to get the money owed to them. They just needed someone to be the first through the door. I fully expect Blunt and Stone to follow suit. The great Jerry West once said one rule you never do is lie to players. Not ever. Same goes for actors.
 

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