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[SplashJacket]

Well I think that is what they had already hoped they did. The inground system is an off-the-shelf product by a specialist vendor.

Which, theoretically means it’s up to the vendor to get it right

 

[Brian]

Which, theoretically means it’s up to the vendor to get it right

Most of the time, there is either an implied or written workmanship warranty from the installer, at minimum. This is in addition to any warranty from the manufacturer of the product. But given the nature of commercial construction at this scale, there is a web of contractors, subcontractors, vendors and manufacturers to work with, which is likely part of the reason why it took so long for fixes to begin being worked on.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Which, theoretically means it’s up to the vendor to get it right

That depends on the issue.

Disney often has their own custom or heavily modified control systems. This was why Intamin very publicly disowned California Screamin’ about 20 years ago when there was a train collision.

If there’s any truth to the power washer story, there would be finger pointing on things like communication and who did what.

There are variables in the relationship between the vendor and installer from being the same, to authorized installer to no formal relationship. But the installer probably wasn’t doing everything like running power and data through the site so different subcontractors hired by the GC ere possibly involved.

 

[wbostic12]

Any lighting updates?

 

[Jayspency]

Any lighting updates?

Communicore hall and planter lights are not on as of tonight

 

[monothingie]

That depends on the issue.

Disney often has their own custom or heavily modified control systems. This was why Intamin very publicly disowned California Screamin’ about 20 years ago when there was a train collision.

If there’s any truth to the power washer story, there would be finger pointing on things like communication and who did what.

There are variables in the relationship between the vendor and installer from being the same, to authorized installer to no formal relationship. But the installer probably wasn’t doing everything like running power and data through the site so different subcontractors hired by the GC ere possibly involved.

The installation contractor and GC typically don’t spec fixtures. This is done at the engineering/architect level in the designs specs. They will also provide install details. So provided that everything was done to spec, the fault lays at the designers.

 

[Squishy]

Communicore hall and planter lights are not on as of tonight

The in park maintenance team has to be throwing a fit over these, they fix it, works for a day or few hours and then something goes wrong

 

[dmc493]

It was never proven to be fully fixed, they could still be working on it after hours.... as others have said multiple times

 

[James Alucobond]

The in park maintenance team has to be throwing a fit over these, they fix it, works for a day or few hours and then something goes wrong

We don’t really know if things have gone “wrong” yet with the new installation. The few times the new panels have been turned on in guest view since the repairs, they’ve been in B-mode, and any issues seemed to be programming or signal issues resulting in inconsistent colors appearing adjacent to one another. This may be what they’re working through. It’s not yet been shown to be physically failing in the way that the original installation did, where the seals broke, the covers warped and cracked, and the lights subsequently faltered and flickered out.

 

[artvandelay]

The installation contractor and GC typically don’t spec fixtures. This is done at the engineering/architect level in the designs specs. They will also provide install details. So provided that everything was done to spec, the fault lays at the designers.

100%

 

[akileese]

We don’t really know if things have gone “wrong” yet with the new installation. The few times the new panels have been turned on in guest view since the repairs, they’ve been in B-mode, and any issues seemed to be programming or signal issues resulting in inconsistent colors appearing adjacent to one another. This may be what they’re working through. It’s not yet been shown to be physically failing in the way that the original installation did, where the seals broke, the covers warped and cracked, and the lights subsequently faltered and flickered out.

Yeah. I'm in the camp of they're doing it section by section, and then turning them back on after a successful test while they work through everything.

Thursday the panels on the side of the Communicore Hall were all working in some capacity. I'm not sure what the A or B mode of those is, but it was shifting in and out of a blue/purple gradient. Seeing it was off Sunday wouldn't shock me since, if the lights working would signify a successful test, then they'd go off until the next section.

I had popped in last Sunday and none of them were working at all and this was the day after the lighting by the planter was in B mode. So I really do believe they're getting there, but I really want to believe they're trying to get this working.

 

[tparris]

Lights are fully on in A-mode! Not quite synced to the shows yet, but they’re all on!

 

[tparris]

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

 

[tparris]

 

[Jayspency]

bets on how long this time?

 

[SplashJacket]

bets on how long this time?

Until the heat death of the universe

 

[MisterPenguin]

Lights are fully on in A-mode! Not quite synced to the shows yet, but they’re all on!

Impossible!

We all know that Disney never fixes anything!!

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

bets on how long this time?

 

[monothingie]

Impossible!

We all know that Disney never fixes anything!!

Same time next year when the 2nd permanent repairs are made?