News Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

HauntedMansionFLA

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I'm surprised they have that back area of Innoventions open for Food & Wine when the building is set to close Sept 8th? This is where the Light Lab was last year, I don't know what they are offering in there or maybe it's just for people to cool out with air conditioning. I was assuming a wall would go around the entire building after Sept 8th?
Won’t there be lots of prep work going on in the inside of the building before demo??
 

HauntedMansionFLA

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Am I the only one who can’t stand the Walt statue?

It’s stupid and insulting. First of all he had nothing to do with Epcot center the theme park, yes it’s sitting in the same location and uses the name of the futuristic city he wanted to build in Florida but that’s it. Walt didn’t design it as a park, he didn’t come up with the concepts of future world and world showcase in fact he had minimal to do with Walt Disney world as a whole since he unfortunately died during its early development.

First Disney completely disrespects the concept and idea of Epcot by turning it into yet another magic kingdom/studios park with movie rides and then throws in a Walt statue as if to say “this is exactly what Walt would have wanted”.

Remind me to flip the bird back at the bobs if i ever run into them.
Roy Disney would have lived the park, not Walt.
 

Rich Brownn

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Am I the only one who can’t stand the Walt statue?

It’s stupid and insulting. First of all he had nothing to do with Epcot center the theme park, yes it’s sitting in the same location and uses the name of the futuristic city he wanted to build in Florida but that’s it. Walt didn’t design it as a park, he didn’t come up with the concepts of future world and world showcase in fact he had minimal to do with Walt Disney world as a whole since he unfortunately died during its early development.

First Disney completely disrespects the concept and idea of Epcot by turning it into yet another magic kingdom/studios park with movie rides and then throws in a Walt statue as if to say “this is exactly what Walt would have wanted”.

Remind me to flip the bird back at the bobs if i ever run into them.
If you the actual story behind "that damned painting", you'd not be so insulted. The truth is the painting and the model were simply props for a very general idea to be used in the film (shot, not for public consumption, but to get laws passed to create the RCID). No real planning had gone into it other than abstract ideas when Walt died. When they tried to figure out how to work, they quickly realized to make it a living city would remove the E and P from the name. (As one Imagineer said, you simply cannot expiriment with people's lives). Hence he idea to use innovative ideas in construction, traffic management, etc under the EPCOT guidelines.
 

HauntedMansionFLA

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Are you saying the current ride is an E Ticket or that they should’ve built a Frozen E Ticket?
Current - best attraction at Epcot until the GotG coaster opens up.
I’m still waiting for Star Wars to get their IP into the park.
Maybe one of these IP’s will get a new3D movie over at the Magiceye theatre.
 

Casper Gutman

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🤨

I mean yeah it ended up better than most expected including myself but really? Spaceship Earth and American Adventure are tops for me.
Yup. And the fact that Frozen is in competition for third best (with, in my opinion, Test Track and Soaring) isn’t praise for Frozen but instead a massive indictment of the state of the park. In 1990 Epcot, Frozen wouldn’t have come anywhere close to the top five.

Frozen is a nice little ride, but it should be garnish to a park full of more ambitious rides, not a main attraction.
 

Timothy_Q

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Am I the only one who can’t stand the Walt statue?

It’s stupid and insulting. First of all he had nothing to do with Epcot center the theme park, yes it’s sitting in the same location and uses the name of the futuristic city he wanted to build in Florida but that’s it. Walt didn’t design it as a park, he didn’t come up with the concepts of future world and world showcase in fact he had minimal to do with Walt Disney world as a whole since he unfortunately died during its early development.

First Disney completely disrespects the concept and idea of Epcot by turning it into yet another magic kingdom/studios park with movie rides and then throws in a Walt statue as if to say “this is exactly what Walt would have wanted”.

Remind me to flip the bird back at the bobs if i ever run into them.
There's like a dozen Walt statues around the world.

By that way of thinking they should remove all of them except Disneyland's
 

Mike S

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Yup. And the fact that Frozen is in competition for third best (with, in my opinion, Test Track and Soaring) isn’t praise for Frozen but instead a massive indictment of the state of the park. In 1990 Epcot, Frozen wouldn’t have come anywhere close to the top five.

Frozen is a nice little ride, but it should be garnish to a park full of more ambitious rides, not a main attraction.
If we still had Soarin’ Over California sure but not Around the World. I was just in DCA and got to ride the classic again. Man I missed it so much.

The old addage “be careful what you wish for” comes to mind when I remember how much everyone was begging for a new version of Soarin’.
 

PorterRedkey

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If we still had Soarin’ Over California sure but not Around the World. I was just in DCA and got to ride the classic again. Man I missed it so much.

The old addage “be careful what you wish for” comes to mind when I remember how much everyone was begging for a new version of Soarin’.
Soarin’ over California should always play at DCA. The music is superior as is the overall experience IMHO.
DCA is supposed to be about California, SoC fits much better than SoW.
 

lazyboy97o

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Yup. And the fact that Frozen is in competition for third best (with, in my opinion, Test Track and Soaring) isn’t praise for Frozen but instead a massive indictment of the state of the park. In 1990 Epcot, Frozen wouldn’t have come anywhere close to the top five.

Frozen is a nice little ride, but it should be garnish to a park full of more ambitious rides, not a main attraction.
Frozen Ever After shouldn’t even be in the running for “nice little ride.” It’s the worst sort of example of just dropping in characters and people going crazy.
 

Timothy_Q

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The ones in the Magic Kingdom parks are fine and I understood the logic of having the one in DCA. Here though it seems disingenuous.
There are Walt statues at DisneySea and the Studios park in Paris as well

And I'd say Epcot has a stronger connection to Walt than Shanghai Disneyland does
 

Sir_Cliff

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Frozen Ever After shouldn’t even be in the running for “nice little ride.” It’s the worst sort of example of just dropping in characters and people going crazy.
Honestly, I find it the best dark ride WDI has come up with in a long time. Certainly not mind-blowing, but at least it's not a book report and the figures and sets all look good. A million years better than TLM or Pooh over in MK, and seems to be far better received than NRJ.

Like most people, I don't like the location. Still, for me it's one of the few indications we've seen in a long time that they even know how to design enjoyable dark rides anymore.
 

jt04

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Honestly, I find it the best dark ride WDI has come up with in a long time. Certainly not mind-blowing, but at least it's not a book report and the figures and sets all look good. A million years better than TLM or Pooh over in MK, and seems to be far better received than NRJ.

Like most people, I don't like the location. Still, for me it's one of the few indications we've seen in a long time that they even know how to design enjoyable dark rides anymore.

Yes, and considering it had to be overlayed on an existing ride system makes it an even more amazing feat. That took more creativity and not less.
 

Captain Neo

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Honestly, I find it the best dark ride WDI has come up with in a long time. Certainly not mind-blowing, but at least it's not a book report and the figures and sets all look good. A million years better than TLM or Pooh over in MK, and seems to be far better received than NRJ.

Like most people, I don't like the location. Still, for me it's one of the few indications we've seen in a long time that they even know how to design enjoyable dark rides anymore.

“At least it’s not a book report”

Huh?
 

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