BoarderPhreak
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All this proves to me is that I made the right choice not buying into DVC as I was seriously considering a while back.
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Big changes coming to Annual Passes
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How so? Tickets and dining having nothing to do with DVC. DVC is for rooms. The increase in ticket price and tiw stink but it doesn't change the price I paid for my room until 2060. When your rate for your room goes up every year mine doesn't. Maybe I don't buy an AP next year but again that is outside of room rates
willtravel
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Do your dues and maintenance go up every year? Just wondering?
Yeah, we're the guests Disney SHOULD want. I, too, am DVC and spend an additional $5,000 - $6,000 each year at Disney for resort stays, beyond using my points. Plus, between our 2 bedroom villa at the GF and the cost of the wedding, I will be giving Disney nearly $40,000 for my daughter's wedding next year. The couple got free annual passes (which have an expiration date of December 2030, according to their MDE accounts), why not me? I'm paying for the d*** thing.
BoarderPhreak
Well-Known Member
And what are my family and I supposed to do once we're sitting there in our room? Tickets and dining are 66% of the equation.
Yes, annual dues go up each year. Along with the number of points per night for a DVC room.
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
Half right.
doctornick
Well-Known Member
Points per night cannot "go up". Each DVC resort has a set amount of points per year for all their rooms. If a change results in a certain time of years requiring more points then other times of year would require less to balance out the total points.
Dues go up each year but not as much as room rate price increases. It still cost less if you go every year
As for dining and tickets yes you are not going to sit in your room but that has nothing to do with DVC. You would pay the same if you are not DVC. My comment was to the poster that said the ticket increase was why they were glad they didn't purchase DVC. My point was tickets and dining have nothing to do with DVC. The reason to buy or not should be based on what your "room" costs per trip. I get they offer free dining so people factor that in but just like they lowered DVC ticket discount that can go away too. From what I understand free dining was very restrictive this year compared to years past. Sort of like the new ticket prices. It stinks either way
As for dining and tickets yes you are not going to sit in your room but that has nothing to do with DVC. You would pay the same if you are not DVC. My comment was to the poster that said the ticket increase was why they were glad they didn't purchase DVC. My point was tickets and dining have nothing to do with DVC. The reason to buy or not should be based on what your "room" costs per trip. I get they offer free dining so people factor that in but just like they lowered DVC ticket discount that can go away too. From what I understand free dining was very restrictive this year compared to years past. Sort of like the new ticket prices. It stinks either way
Number of points per year do not go up ever. They can not change total number of points per year at a resort. They can raise one season but only by lowering another
scottb411
Well-Known Member
Yes, Disney is pricing out families with these new plans. I have a family of five so the parking benefit doesn't outweigh the additional cost of $300 a year for this year alone and probably over $1k from the prices from three years ago. We have typically been a seasonal passholder when we have done the passes and then have taken two or three four-day trips on the property throughout the year to avoid paying for parking. Other times when we drove, we would eat lunch or dinner at one of the hotels on property and include a trip to the parks. Disney has eliminated this grey area but for us, we will probably now just get one of the AP passes one or two times over the next 16 years as the kids are growing up as opposed to three or four times. Living in Orlando, I will look for the 4-day discount passes they typically run in spring time and do a trip then.
Again, this is going to create an issue where the demographics are going to tip towards more adults and less kids in the parks that will benefit Disney in the short-term in profits but a lot of kids are going to grow up now without those trips in their minds where Disney will no longer be viewed as a rite of passage when they are adults because they never went to Disney as a child or have only been once or twice. Disney should strongly consider creating a family-tiered AP plan for children 18 and under in a household and create individual theme park AP passes to compete with SeaWorld. I would enjoy just having an AP pass for Animal Kingdom to take my two year old to see Orlando's zoo, but not at $2,500 for the year for tickets alone (around $4k total if staying on property twice a year). I can do two similar vacation trips with the whole family where will have as much fun with lasting memories for around $2,000 year including lodging and activities.
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If you travel the same time each year, say March, and a 2 bedroom villa in your home resort is 25 points a night in 2015 and 28 points a night for the same time in 2016, then for you, the points required per night for your stay have gone up, whether or not Disney balanced the total points throughout the year. That's what I meant
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
They do indeed - and WDW has been cutting the quality of the services as well up till a couple years ago I never got a DVC room with other than minor issues, Now non functioning appliances and damaged/broken furniture have been a feature of every DVC stay since 2012 or so.
asianway
Well-Known Member
Looked it up-they must've increased them a bit already. You pay $30 for day 4, $10 each days 5-10. That's insane, no wonder the magic kingdom is so crowded
punkabella
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At first I was saw the new ap prices as not a big deal, but that price hike, even with the photo downloads does not make sense financially for me and my husband. The photos used to cost about 150 per vacation.. which was fine for a 10 day vacation, but opted not to get it for our shorter vacations and it made for a lot less standing around waiting for a photographer to take our picture. Now if we were to renew our APs, we'd have to each incur an increase in price which would be hit both of us. I can't imagine paying all the extra money if you were a family of 4+ for the added benefit for the photos.. I definitely will not be renewing my AP. Also means I'm going to wait on planning a real wdw vacation until things have been completed at dhs, ak, and mk.
dreamfinder
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Parking (not previously included for some of the cheaper passes) and Photopass downloads. And the ability to pay for some executive's bonus.
jessfriends
Active Member
I guess the new benefits are not carried over to current AP holders? I renewed in May 2015 and would have liked to get the photopass benefit but will have to wait until I renew next May after a trip or 2 I take in the spring of 2016. The extra cost of Tables in Wonderland will probably prevent me from getting it again as I probably will not even break even.
