ToTBellHop
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Yes, yes it would. Personally, I’d enclose the villain land due to weather and firework fallout issues but that wouldn’t be cheap.
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News 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom
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MagicHappens1971
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I think this would be fantastic, a dark land, I’m picturing Knockturn Alley but on a grander scheme
Bocabear
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And they could still have their IP inclusion, but something wonderful and unique...Darker which would appeal to the tastes nowadays, but still fun...and still a better choice for the Magic Kingdome than any of the other thoughts they had... it just feels right for this park...
Coco and Encanto feel right for the World Showcase...
Coco and Encanto feel right for the World Showcase...
UNCgolf
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Encanto doesn't feel right for the World Showcase to me. Not that it matters, because they'd have to build a Colombia pavilion first for any argument of fit and they definitely aren't going to do that, but it's a magical fantasy film more than something relevant to real world culture/places.
Coco is more of a fit, except it can't go in the existing Mexico pavilion.
Brer Panther
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What kind of rides would a hypothetical "villains' land" built by Chapek's Disney even have?
I imagine there'd only be one or two rides... maybe one big thrilling ride (a Bald Mountain coaster?) and a smaller flat ride? A trackless dark ride?
Would they be concerned about redundancy with attractions featuring/based on villains already featured in attractions at the Magic Kingdom (such as Captain Hook)? I doubt it...
I imagine there'd only be one or two rides... maybe one big thrilling ride (a Bald Mountain coaster?) and a smaller flat ride? A trackless dark ride?
Would they be concerned about redundancy with attractions featuring/based on villains already featured in attractions at the Magic Kingdom (such as Captain Hook)? I doubt it...
MagicHappens1971
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I would imagine there would probably be one E-ticket esque attraction with multiple villains, and then probably 1-3 B-Ds focusing on certain villains
MadderAdder
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Definitely a villains character meal, too…
DisneyHead123
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Villains + Encanto / Coco seems like an odd mashup to me, but other than that, would be awesome if this actually happened. I wonder if they could just make it “Character Land” (with a much catchier name of course) and have a big character meeting center too. That way the mixed IP would have some kind of cohesion.
MagicHappens1971
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An Encanto/Coco area that leads into a villains land could be done well with a good transition
Coaster Lover
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- In the Parks
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Any chance we finally get our Snuggly Duckling restaurant in Villians Land?
DisneyHead123
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I feel like each land has some kind of internal logic regarding what’s there, even if quite broad. “Fantasy” and “Adventure” are super broad, but still general guidelines. “Tomorrow” is a bit more specific, as is “Frontier”, even if, in reality, it’s more “Americana Land” than “Frontier Land”. I’m not sure what the overarching theme would be behind putting most of the Disney Latino characters + villains in a land though… I mean I guess I get it, it’s basically “Popular IP Land”, ha ha, but that’s why I think they should focus on something like “characters” if they’re going to kind of mash those concepts together. It doesn’t make a lot of sense to say Hispanic characters and villains share some kind of theme when they clearly don’t. But an overall “characters” theme (Disney Magic Land? Wonder and Wickedness Land? Subscribe To Disney+ Land? Dunno, that’s for an employee who gets paid big bucks for creativity to figure out.) could work.
doctornick
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its not all one land.
DisneyHead123
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I'm not clear on that. My reading on the extremely tentative, "Blue Sky" plans is that this is literally what one would see if one was a traveler and walked a bit past the town in which Thunder Mountain is located. Which doesn't make a lot of sense, because Mexico and South America clearly wouldn't be in the same place, even if they want to say it's a border town overrun by villains for some reason. I guess they could say that Thunder Mountain is a gateway into the realm of fantasy for whatever reason, but again, that goes back to what I said in my comment above. Why wouldn't it be a gateway into all fantasy, including Cinderella, Mickey, Ariel, etc.?
James Alucobond
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Nor would locations from upstate New York, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Missouri, Georgia, the southwest, and the far west ring the same short stretch of river. Why do people think geographic proximity suddenly matters?
The villain area is very clearly intended to be entirely separate based on the art that was shown.
doctornick
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Doesn’t really seem confusing to me. D’Amaro is very clearly talking about “what if we built on the undeveloped land beyond Big Thunder Mountain” not that BTMRR has anything to do with those specific new lands. And he referred to them as new lands not all being together.
It’s no different than if they had said for DL last decade “we’re going to beyond Critter Country to go to Star Wars”
DisneyHead123
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I guess I’m stuck on geography because it was presented as what’s immediately beyond the perimeter of Big Thunder, specifically. If it was just presented as “South of the US border” in a general sense, then that’s different.
Regarding the villain land as separate… maybe. Again, very short, vague announcement, so it’s not really clear to me. That would certainly make more sense.
DisneyHead123
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Can you link a quote or video? My Google powers are coming up short today and I’m not finding much in the way of what he specifically said.
ToTBellHop
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Mexico next to Big Thunder is better than New Orleans on the other side…
DisneyHead123
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Mexico, ok, South America is a stretch.
From what others are saying I guess this would be more like mini lands, akin to Storybook Circus. Encanto, Coco and Villains still seems a little disjointed for a group of mini lands placed in the same part of the park, but I guess the theme could be Worlds of Wonder or something like that.
Incomudro
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The idea of creating lands in Magic Kingdom based on these two films is terrible and cringe inducing.
There isn't a land based on any other IP in the park - yet these two films warrant a land a piece?
It's ridiculous.
We don't even get a ride a piece based on movies that have shown much more lasting appeal, but these two films might get lands?
It doesn't fit Magic Kingdom, at all.