News 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom

[TTA94]

It’s sad that all they’re likely going to talk about for WDW, their cash cow, is the Tropical Americas replacement of Dinoland. I doubt the parade will be announced (if it’s even happening) because, if so, wouldn’t we have heard it was under construction? And how does it take so long for them to announce concrete plans for Moana and CoCo? Why can’t they make up their minds?

D23 might be a flop, as it usually is. Bunch of blue sky stuff we may or may not see and other more solid stuff that we won’t see built for many years. The parade is probably the only thing that’s in the near future, but even that might not be announced at D23 and just saved for a DPB post.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

D23 might be a flop, as it usually is. Bunch of blue sky stuff we may or may not see and other more solid stuff that we won’t see built for many years. The parade is probably the only thing that’s in the near future, but even that might not be announced at D23 and just saved for a DPB post.

If they make it another Blue Sky fest, there had better be BOOS raining from the rafters.

 

[TheIceBaron]

If they make it another Blue Sky fest, there had better be BOOS raining from the rafters.

I don’t think it will be a flop as they can simply announce projects, as if they are happening, then not do anything about them until they are either ready or quietly cancel them after a few years. Then they don’t have to face the boos and pretend like everything is zipadeedooda!

 

[HauntedPirate]

NIGHT PARADE? Spectromagic 2.0?!

I wouldn’t get your hopes up.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

I wouldn’t get your hopes up.

Take a look at my Lin-Manuel Miranda rap in the Tiana thread and I think you'll see where my hopes are.

 

[HauntedPirate]

Take a look at my Lin-Manuel Miranda rap in the Tiana thread and I think you'll see where my hopes are.

Pass. And not just because I think LMM is way overrated.

The best way to be disappointed by this regime is to have high hopes. They have continually proven that expectations should be low, because they’ll often come in at or below them even there.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

Pass. And not just because I think LMM is way overrated.

The best way to be disappointed by this regime is to have high hopes. They have continually proven that expectations should be low, because they’ll often come in at or below them even there.

Yeah, I agree. I never have high hopes. I actually actively dread D23. I have since I was in WDW during 2017's expo and they revealed the Great Movie Ride was being replaced.

And I was once under attack in the movies thread for questioning why LMM keeps getting Disney jobs. I think he's a brilliant lyricist at times. But I also kind of want to punch him.

 

[TTA94]

NIGHT PARADE? Spectromagic 2.0?!

I wouldn’t get your hopes up.

Idk. I do trust @wdwmagic, But a little skeptical at the same time. As we all know they can pull the plug or throw it to the back burner at any moment. The only way the parade is a guarantee is if floats are in the process of built. If they aren’t or if the plans are really for MSEP or PTN as we knew it then it can easily be canceled.

 

[SilentWindODoom]

I was going to say. I thought someone said it was definitely happening, but when you're traversing three threads that were once two and that could literally come up in any of them, it's hard to keep straight.

 

[Brer Panther]

I think LMM is way overrated.

And I was once under attack in the movies thread for questioning why LMM keeps getting Disney jobs. I think he's a brilliant lyricist at times. But I also kind of want to punch him.

Would you prefer people desperately trying to be Lin Manuel-Miranda and failing at it like in the songs from Wish?

 

[Bocabear]

OMG I think WISH is possibly the worst Disney film I have ever seen....stinks on ice.
I can't believe they rushed out merchandise for that one....way more than they did for Moana....

 

[TTA94]

I was going to say. I thought someone said it was definitely happening, but when you're traversing three threads that were once two and that could literally come up in any of them, it's hard to keep straight.

You are right it has been said it’s happening, but what has not been said is where in the process it is. I do not know how their process works when it comes to new entertainment and at what point they get to where There’s no turning back now lol, other than when floats are in the process of being built.

 

[The Leader of the Club]

D23 might be a flop, as it usually is. Bunch of blue sky stuff we may or may not see and other more solid stuff that we won’t see built for many years. The parade is probably the only thing that’s in the near future, but even that might not be announced at D23 and just saved for a DPB post.

The move to the Honda Center gives me some hope that Disney may have some tricks up their sleeves. That being said, they could easily make announcements to excite the crowd and quietly cancel them in the upcoming years. Or the announcements could hit heavy for DLR, DCL, and the international parks while being fairly light on concrete info for WDW.

I’m thinking WDW will get confirmation of Tropical Americas and a closing date for Dinoland, A new parade announcement, Coco and Moana reveals for MK, and maybe a few more surprises.

 

[BrianLo]

If we get another "blue sky" segment Josh D'Amaro should be fired. Honestly he's sort of already on thin ice... At least on these boards.

Honestly... was it really that bad? We are participants of a Rumours forum. I'll happily take Disney participating in an official capacity. That's literally what we are there for - or at least what I am there for. Not a simply a product keynote, but a look behind the curtain.

I can draw a line between what we are getting and what was shown off in the D23 session. As long as it was labeled as such, really, wasn't it actually a good thing? Especially when they've announced things in more official capacities and they've dropped off the face of the earth. Josh's Blue sky segment was more accurate than traditional announcements.

Hopefully we will get both (Concrete and Blue Sky) - and I'm sorry to all, I'll happily cheer if I like what I see during Blue Sky Segments as well and ask for more of them in the future.

 

[Starship824]

Honestly... was it really that bad? We are participants of a Rumours forum. I'll happily take Disney participating in an official capacity. That's literally what we are there for - or at least what I am there for. Not a simply a product keynote, but a look behind the curtain.

I can draw a line between what we are getting and what was shown off in the D23 session. As long as it was labeled as such, really, wasn't it actually a good thing? Especially when they've announced things in more official capacities and they've dropped off the face of the earth. Josh's Blue sky segment was more accurate than traditional announcements.

Hopefully we will get both (Concrete and Blue Sky) - and I'm sorry to all, I'll happily cheer if I like what I see during Blue Sky Segments as well and ask for more of them in the future.

Well I like rumors and discussing them with other people like on these boards but I don't want to see that at an official Disney presentation where the whole point is to tell us what's happening in the parks in the future. That's what the expo has been advertised as for years and what it has given us in the past. Sure, like you said some of those projects didn't happen even though they were announced but most of those didn't happen because of COVID. Idk as long as we get a decent amount of actual announcements this year then I guess I'm ok with it. But we need a lot of big announcements like DAK plans, the supposed DHS land and BBT although I wouldn't expect all of those this year.

 

[BrianLo]

Well I like rumors and discussing them with other people like on these boards but I don't want to see that at an official Disney presentation where the whole point is to tell us what's happening in the parks in the future. That's what the expo has been advertised as for years and what it has given us in the past. Sure, like you said some of those projects didn't happen even though they were announced but most of those didn't happen because of COVID. Idk as long as we get a decent amount of actual announcements this year then I guess I'm ok with it. But we need a lot of big announcements like DAK plans, the supposed DHS land and BBT although I wouldn't expect all of those this year.

Everyone acts like it would have been a more successful presentation if Josh just got on stage and said there was nothing currently approved and got back off. Which was exactly what I expected going into it.

Instead of padding the presentation with literally nothing - we got a revealing peak behind the curtain. I thought it was great and Josh deserve credit for sticking his neck out. He's the best P&R head we've had in decades, one that actively doesn't seem to have disdain for the audience at worst, or was a pleasantly out of touch bumbling products and consumer guy at best.

For a presentation with an exceedingly bad hand dealt, D23 2022 was actually...good. AND maybe the most ironically factually correct presentation of all. If Avengers ever comes through, that is.

 

[Fox&Hound]

I will never forgive them for that fake out Figment reveal. Who loves Figment???? Here is a meet and greet and not the ride update you are all expecting. It was cruel in every sense. I honestly lost a lot of respect for DIS that day!

 

[The Leader of the Club]

I will never forgive them for that fake out Figment reveal. Who loves Figment???? Here is a meet and greet and not the ride update you are all expecting. It was cruel in every sense. I honestly lost a lot of respect for DIS that day!

Disney never said “expect a ride update to be announced!” If you were disappointed by that, I think your expectations were too high.

I’ve always seen the Figment M&G as an important step towards a new ride update. It allowed execs to see first-hand how beloved that character is.

 

[Vclguy90]

Yeah, I agree. I never have high hopes. I actually actively dread D23. I have since I was in WDW during 2017's expo and they revealed the Great Movie Ride was being replaced.

And I was once under attack in the movies thread for questioning why LMM keeps getting Disney jobs. I think he's a brilliant lyricist at times. But I also kind of want to punch him.

The man is super annoying and overrated and is actively killing the emotions I've had for the Disney movies he's involved in their remakes. Cringe is the word.

 

[Gusey]

Plus those blue sky sessions did provide some news of Disney looking at developing Dinoland and Beyond Big Thunder, even if the actual content of the development wasn't finalised. A similar thing happened in 2017 with the Epcot blue sky art and he Avengers Manual Cover hinting at a Marvel Land in DCA