News 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom

[lazyboy97o]

Now is absolutely the time for Disney to build the arcades like at Disneyland Paris. Figure it out, suck it up and do it. Start with the west side first so it can be open and then do it properly on the east side. The Magic Kingdoms have a defined entry experience and it needs room to grow with the park.

 

[Brer Oswald]

It’s gonna be an add on to the Wakanda Pavilion in world showcase

You think they are going to let us ride the Shuricopter? Ever since I was a kid, I wanted to ride the Shuricopter.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Now is absolutely the time for Disney to build the arcades like at Disneyland Paris. Figure it out, suck it up and do it. Start with the west side first so it can be open and then do it properly on the east side. The Magic Kingdoms have a defined entry experience and it needs room to grow with the park.

That’s an odd play for you to be adamantly advocating for…

I guess they could do it on the East side since they already have that area free?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You think they are going to let us ride the Shuricopter? Ever since I was a kid, I wanted to ride the Shuricopter.

Didn’t shuri get canceled for being too militant?

 

[Rich Brownn]

Read your own comparison. Variably. And notice how those are in entire differently parks that complement the areas they are in. They don't directly compete with funny and grim ghosts in one and darker grim ghosts in the other.


If they opened a ghostly haunted house that are just the most grim-based ghosts across the park in an expansion...it would of course be awkward, as they belong with The Haunted Mansion.

That is more akin to Fantasyland and Villains.

Ironically the version in Japan is in.... Fantasyland.

 

[celluloid]

Ironically the version in Japan is in.... Fantasyland.

I've been there. Yep. Which makes sense. For one, it was done that way to be culturally sensitive.
And it is placed as a transition towards the Westernland side and Critter Country areas.

Now if they had a Liberty Square with only dark spirits. That would be silly and conflicting.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

100% opinion by me here, but I think if you want to sell management on making a phase 2 actually get made in the north/west portion of park grounds, you need to design a second entrance to the park that gets built alongside phase 1 in the shadow of phase 2. A northern bus plaza that all hotels run a bus to at all hours of the day, train station, shops, and a hub that can send you off to the new additions with passageways into Fantasyland.

Phases sound way more invested than they are…

Who’s coming to this new phase? And more importantly where are they fitting it in the week without Dak and Epcot becoming a ghost town?

I believe that having multiple entrances will diminish the experience of the parks. Even Walt Disney himself declined to incorporate multiple entrances in Disneyland because he believed it would detract from the guests' experience.

Yeah he’s been in forest lawn for what? 58 years?

Don’t think that’s a blip on the thought radar for Bob the sailor

 

[celluloid]

Staffing I think would be the issue. If anything like described would exist, it would be xow I g .o oraios and Parking Trams right to BDO to save money and get guests right to where thety can spend the most.

 

[WaltWiz1901]

If you're going to do a Villains Land, you can make the entrance lead onto a Villains Main Street with Bald Mountain at the end.

Would be onboard with this if the villains chosen fit the main aesthetic and it wasn't simply a catch-all villain hangout. The Forbidden Mountains (and Maleficent's castle) in Sleeping Beauty would work better in a "dark woods" setting than they would here

 

[ChewbaccaYourMum]

I meant to add when that was brought up, Disneyland has just implemented this exact idea with "Fire of the Rising Moons", where the visible Disneyland fireworks are given a Star Wars soundtrack that's only played in Galaxy's Edge, essentially creating a unique show for that land.

I would think this same idea could very easily (and perhaps quite successfully) be implemented in a Villains Land.

I was the one who had that random idea last week. I didn't realize that is what they're doing over at Disneyland. That's very exciting!

 

[lazyboy97o]

I've been there. Yep. Which makes sense. For one, it was done that way to be culturally sensitive.
And it is placed as a transition towards the Westernland side and Critter Country areas.

Now if they had a Liberty Square with only dark spirits. That would be silly and conflicting.

The Haunted Mansion being in Fantasyland for cultural reasons is a nice story. It is also there because the Oriental Land Company decided they wanted a Big Thunder Mountain Railroad and they needed space in Westernland.

 

[Haymarket2008]

So, what we can glean from insiders, the Beyond Big Thunder project will be currently be an expansion of Frontierland with a heavy presence of Coco and then a phase 2 include Villains?

 

[James Alucobond]

So, what we can glean from insiders, the Beyond Big Thunder project will be currently be an expansion of Frontierland with a heavy presence of Coco and then a phase 2 include Villains?

Frontierland + Adventureland for phase 1, villain land for phase 2.

 

[Andrew25]

So... "New Frontierland" is beyond Big Thunder... and "Old Frontierland" becomes New Orleans Square?

 

[James Alucobond]

So... "New Frontierland" is beyond Big Thunder... and "Old Frontierland" becomes New Orleans Square?

Frontierland still retains attractions rooted in Tennessee, Missouri, and the Southwest in addition to Louisiana. I doubt New Orleans Square is exactly the play there.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

Is a Coco expansion enough to excite people though? I still haven't seen the movie (not on purpose, but haven't had a chance), so I don't know if it deserves all this hype.

 

[Stupido]

Is a Coco expansion enough to excite people though? I still haven't seen the movie (not on purpose, but haven't had a chance), so I don't know if it deserves all this hype.

It absolutely deserves the hype. It's very much worth committing to the 1 hr 45 minute runtime.

 

[James Alucobond]

Is a Coco expansion enough to excite people though? I still haven't seen the movie (not on purpose, but haven't had a chance), so I don't know if it deserves all this hype.

IMO, big Coco ride + big Moana ride is exciting. Depending on scope, it could be more attraction content than Pandora.

 

[doctornick]

As an aside, if Coco does come to MK, I would hope it brings with it a solid Mexican restaurant- whether table service, quick serve or both. And I would envision a lot of Day of the Dead themed merch. Of course, you get a good bit of Mexico merch in Epcot so there will probably be overlap.

If there is a solid Mexican food service, then perhaps Tortuga Tavern can be switched to a more Caribbean menu

 

[Touchdown]

Is a Coco expansion enough to excite people though? I still haven't seen the movie (not on purpose, but haven't had a chance), so I don't know if it deserves all this hype.

Yes, it’s the last great Pixar movie to date. I also would love a ride based on it and will continue to state that FL Splash should have been rethemed to this movie instead of Tiana to fit the land better.