Beastlie UPDATE

[ToTBellHop]

Maybe I'm misreading them, but it seems like the Imagineers are really bent on building a coaster here...this could be a MASSIVE record breaker--most LIM launches on a complete circuit coaster, most trains on a roller coaster, most expensive coaster ever built (I don't honestly know of any coaster that costed anything near $100,000,000...), and whatever else they wanna add...trying to imagine a coaster w/ 3 LIMs...THAT SOUNDS LIKE SO MUCH FUN!!!

 

[Al]

what i would like to see is a flying roller coaster thru the volcano. The rollercoaster would be similar to the new one at a park over here in the uk (alton towers)

http://www.altontowers.com you can find out about the ride and see what i mean

 

[WigglyWiggins]

3d?

I cant remember the site, but it was a rumour page on WDW and it said that disney was looking into adding a 3D experiance to a new coaster..? It probably isnt true, but if it was...HOW good would that be!! lus, has anyone been on AIR yet at alton towers...its meant to be Amazing...?

 

[Al]

Re: 3d?

Originally posted by WigglyWiggins
I cant remember the site, but it was a rumour page on WDW and it said that disney was looking into adding a 3D experiance to a new coaster..? It probably isnt true, but if it was...HOW good would that be!! lus, has anyone been on AIR yet at alton towers...its meant to be Amazing...?

Alton Towers opened to the public today. Its about a 40minute drive from where I live. I hope to go down in a week or 2 (the crowds today will be massive).

 

[WigglyWiggins]

I live near brighton, so fat chance of me going anytime soon, its too far away! the only thing i wonder about air and other flying coasters is the restraints....do you think they will be comfy?

 

[wdwmaniac]

when do you guys think the next celebration will be after the 100. 35th ann? Because I was thinking Animal Kingdom hasn't every had a celebration there and the Beastly Kingdom would make it a prime location.

 

[Goofster]

Originally posted by WigglyWiggins
I live near brighton, so fat chance of me going anytime soon, its too far away! the only thing i wonder about air and other flying coasters is the restraints....do you think they will be comfy?

Oh yeah, man, Six Flags World's of Adventure's X-Flight are the most comfortable restraints I've ever seen. They really have no plastic on them at all, it's hard to explain, it's just a large pad that you strap on like a life vest. They are really comfortable so the only thing you have to worry about is checking out the amazing views and feeling the awesome sensation.

 

[wanabeimagineer]

Originally posted by wdwmaniac
when do you guys think the next celebration will be after the 100. 35th ann? Because I was thinking Animal Kingdom hasn't every had a celebration there and the Beastly Kingdom would make it a prime location.

Yea it seems like theyve been doing a diff celebration almost every year with a diff park since the 25th anniversary (25th was in MK, Millenium in Epcot, and 100 yrs in MGM) so i guess its animal kingdoms turn, but whats it gonna be? well they said Beastly Kingdom in 2004, and the 35th ann. would be in 2006 so i dont think that would work, but theres not really any other milestone coming up soon is there?

 

[Rider]

Originally posted by DogsRule!
I came up w/ a way for the views not to be abstructed...Vekoma uses it on their Deja Vu coasters, where the seats in any given car are not at the same distance, horizontally, from the front of the car. Flying coasters are a bit nausiating...not sure disney would put one in...it'd be hard to get a view of anything, b/c you would have to be face down...otherwise you would feel like you were going backwards when the LIM kicked in (if you have been on a flyer, when you are on your back, above the track, you feel like you are going backwards). It'd be quite painful to tilt your head to the side to see the dragon...

I've been on X-Flight and it is one of the best coasters I have been on.

The way to make a Flying Dutchman work for this is to keep the seats upright through the show scenes. So in the first rooms you are sitting up and watching everything (backwards, but look at Spaceship Earth). Then when the real coaster started the seats would move into the flying position.

Right now, Flying Dutchman have to lower in the station, but they were origanly designed to lower on the lift hill. They took out the pistions on the cars because it was too complicated at the time. I can see them adding that back in to do what I said.

As for seeing the dragon, all you would have to do is some clever elements and no one would have to turn their head.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Those flyers take obscenely long for the cast members to check and the lines were RIDICULOUS. I waited four hours for X-Flight...I honestly do not see disney building a coaster that intense (you cannot tell me it's not intense) when the lines move that ridiculously slow...

 

[Goofster]

I disagree w/ intensity. I think like Serial Thriller for example at WoA is much more intense and painful than X-Flight, X-FLight is a smooth, amazing experience.

Still we all know BK will not open with a flying coaster. It just doesn't make sense, still, no one knows what the future holds...

 

[adr315]

I disagree about the Vekoma flyers being comfortable....i went on Batwing at Six Flags America over the summer, and although it was an intense, and unique ride, i found the restraints to be very limiting, tight, uncomfortable, and it was even kinda hard to breath with them....i hear B&M's flying coasters ("Air" at Alton Towers, and "Superman Ultimate Flight" at Six FLags over Georgia) are extremely comfortable and smooth....BTW, "Air" opened today......

 

[ToTBellHop]

I felt like I was going to throw up on X-Flight...and that was the first time I've ever felt like that on ANY roller coaster...and I never turn down a coaster. They would really be limiting the number of riders with a flyer, which is not what Animal Kingdom needs...not that inverted coasters aren't intense, but not as intense. As for them HURTING...that is the coaster company's fault and has to do w/ the trains being crappy. Disney would make sure the ride was smooth, regardless of intensity--no one likes whiplash.

 

[adr315]

www.sw5live.com has some AMAZING pics of "air" today......this thing looks amazing...too bad ill probably never get to ride it (ill have to settle for Six Flags over Georgia's "Superman Ultimate Flight", which will probably have absolutely no theming, compared to "air"..) If Disney were to take a ride like this, a B&M flyer, and ultra-theme it to death, it would be the greatest coaster in the world.....if only dreams came true, hehe

 

[ToTBellHop]

that doesn't look nearly as well-themed as Nemesis, but nevertheless, I love how Alton Towers is able to make awesome rides despite their height restrictions. I like how B&M has the cars hang down from above before the hydraulics set in...that's what disney would have to use if they wanted this ride to go into Animal Kingdom (so you could get the proper view of the dragon), but I think we agreed that disney would not want to build anything through B&M...

 

[adr315]

Even if "air" is not themed, look at the way theirs walkways all around....its MUCH different than the way coasters usually are, which is set aside in a mound of dirt, where only workers can access it......in "air", u walk thru, and all around the ride, which is impressive.

 

[ToTBellHop]

That's how Alton Towers builds their coasters...look at the theming Nemesis has...they even went so far on that coaster as to dye the water red to look like blood.

 

[Bdis86]

Maybe for once Disney will build their own coaster. Now that would be good!

 

[Al]

Originally posted by WigglyWiggins
I live near brighton, so fat chance of me going anytime soon, its too far away! the only thing i wonder about air and other flying coasters is the restraints....do you think they will be comfy?

you dont feel the restraints at all, adding to the effect that you are actually flying

 

[WDWFREAK53]

Ok...just sit back and think about this one...This coaster has a budget of 120,000,000 dollars... This will be a one of a kind coaster. Granted, the AA dragon will cost a pretty penny, the coaster alone will be like NOTHING out there. We're looking at better than anything out there in means of comfort, coaster quality, and theming. It's time that Disney gets into the THRILL world...and I believe this coaster will be just what it needs to get things going...unless SPACE beats it to the punch