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KitchenKabaret

New Member
So annoying....when planning our trip for this summer, I realized that we can do DHS is in a few hours if we want. We love Star Tours, will get one FP+ ride on TSM, and that's about it. While I can appreciate the beauty that is ToT, it is too terrifying for me. Did it once; never again.
 

Longhairbear

Well-Known Member
You’ll get little argument from me that WWOHP’s substance was modest.

So was Terror of Terror (TOT) in 1994. Yet TOT was (and still is) an amazing theme park experience.

In many ways, 1994 represents the pinnacle of WDW. DHS was still new, DAK was in the planning stages, and WDW had just opened the most remarkable attraction since its early days. A water park had opened and another one was on the way. (I love WDW’s water parks, BTW.) Pleasure Island was there for adults who wanted to have some fun while a complete makeover of Downtown Disney was in the works.

Go back 20 years and almost no one was bashing Disney. It truly felt like “the place where dreams come true”. The pixie dust was pretty thick in those days. :)

No matter what you or I might think of the substance behind WWOHP, the fundamental reality is that WWOHP was phenomenal critical and economic success. Reviews were overwhelmingly positive and the expansion had a transforming effect on Universal’s cash flow.

It’s not always how much you spend; it’s how wisely you spend it.

Many have been critical of the New Fantasyland for having turned an entire area of the Magic Kingdom into one big kiddie park. Many have been critical of MyMagic+ for being a huge money grab approved by those with no appreciation of the theme park experience. Many have been critical of Pandora for being a poor choice of IP. And, of course, Disney takes takes an inordinate number of years to get these projects done.

Conversely, Universal is on a roll.

WWOHP was an unbelievable success. Both Minions Mayhem and Transformers were positively received. All 3 were relatively inexpensive. And Diagon Alley promises to be the most amazing addition to a theme park since WWOHP.

Disney continues to invest poorly while Universal invests wisely.
We are in California. Our cable stations are showing both 30% off rooms at WDW, and Harry Potter teasers at Universal Orlando. There are, so far, many more Disney ads currently. On regular broadcast cable, say ABC Network, we get the same Disney 30% off commercials. WDW commercials in the market that has DLR as only an hour's drive away!
I've been reading threads created on specific DVC sites that hate FP+ because of problems members have encountered. But that's not the end of the FP discussion. DVC members are not going to the WDW parks, while staying at their DVC villa, but going elsewhere in central FLA! Some are asking for ideas of where to explore outside the WDW property when staying at their DVC villa. Some replies mention Harry Potter, others don't. Go to Mouseowners, Disboards, etc., and you'll see some discord Disney never thought would happen among their DVC members. There seems to be a lot of mention of WDW burnout...., kids no longer interested in the parks, more pool time, and alternate attractions, mini golf, water parks, hanging out at DTD.
So to sum up what I have been reading online,
No new attractions
No interest in FP+
No interest in planning ahead
Bored with Disney
Somewhat interest in what central FLA has to offer
Seeing Harry Potter
Renting a car to go off property
Might I mention, these are the DVC sites I go to, not the Disney fan sites.
 

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