Avengers Endgame Spoiler Discussion

[flynnibus]

captain marvel in this movie is nothing but lazy writing.

Hey... let's make our run at Thanos... BTW we can do this run at anytime we want.. and they don't reach out to captain marvel and be like "hey, I know your busy on other planets and all... but we're making a run at the stones to fix ALL of this... can you give us 5?"??

somehow finds iron man adrift...
can't be bothered to be present at the moment to try to save half the universe...
Most powerful being we've seen in the universe... yet stoneless-Thanos is still able to best her... while same Thanos is bested by human super heros...
vague generic excuses on her motives and timelines...

She's a mess

 

[michmousefan]

300 mil more and more likely. Probably going to have another record day today.

It's a ridiculously entertaining film. Fantastic way to bookend the MCU. Last night were some of the largest cheers I've heard in a cinema, ever.

 

[flynnibus]

It's a ridiculously entertaining film. Fantastic way to bookend the MCU. Last night were some of the largest cheers I've heard in a cinema, ever.

Some guy tried to start clapping at the end in our theatre... like 2 people joined and it died an awkward finish.

 

[Mike S]

Omg I just realized how amazingly meta Tony calling Thor “Lebowski” is.

Just give it a sec

 

[DisneyJayL]

Some guy tried to start clapping at the end in our theatre... like 2 people joined and it died an awkward finish.

Not in my theater. I usually don’t clap or yell but this time I got wrapped up in it.

 

[flynnibus]

The whole Thor as 'The Dude' I thought was pretty blatant

 

[DisneyJayL]

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[Mike S]

Not in my theater. I usually don’t clap or yell but this time I got wrapped up in it.

I couldn’t hear other people over myself at the end.

 

[erasure fan1]

I just got back, and I loved it. I thought they did a great job bringing it to a pretty solid finale. Sure there could have been a few things better explained or expanded on, but we couldn't have a 6hr movie.

That group moment in the big battle.. so forced.

This is my only complaint with the movie. It wasnt that it was "girl power" , it was just very forced, not natural at all.

 

[Princess Leia]

captain marvel in this movie is nothing but lazy writing.

Hey... let's make our run at Thanos... BTW we can do this run at anytime we want.. and they don't reach out to captain marvel and be like "hey, I know your busy on other planets and all... but we're making a run at the stones to fix ALL of this... can you give us 5?"??

somehow finds iron man adrift...
can't be bothered to be present at the moment to try to save half the universe...
Most powerful being we've seen in the universe... yet stoneless-Thanos is still able to best her... while same Thanos is bested by human super heros...
vague generic excuses on her motives and timelines...

She's a mess

If people didn’t see Captain Marvel, and stick around for the mid-credits scene, then her saving Tony and Nebula makes no sense. The fact that I had to put it together via context clues is not great on the Russos part:

Carol responded to the pager, stuck around for 2-3 weeks, Pepper alerted the Avengers that she was getting messages from Tony, Carol went out to deep space to find him.

Again, that was from context. But Marvel shouldn’t have had to let people come up with that on their own, that’s not great.

I’m curious to see what scenes got cut from the film, and if any of them filled in some of the gaps.

 

[Mike S]

The whole Thor as 'The Dude' I thought was pretty blatant

Yes but who played the Dude, and who played Obadiah in Iron Man.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It's a comic book movie... not science fiction. It doesn't need to be factual - but it does need to be CONSISTENT and credible to the viewer that this makes sense.

It's the MCU - they make their own rules... but if you want people to buy-in and follow along.. you have to be CONVINCING that it all makes sense in their universe.

When that breaks down... the suspension of disbelief is broken and contradiction becomes distracting.

I’m curious what your favorite mcu movie is?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It's a comic book movie... not science fiction. It doesn't need to be factual - but it does need to be CONSISTENT and credible to the viewer that this makes sense.

It's the MCU - they make their own rules... but if you want people to buy-in and follow along.. you have to be CONVINCING that it all makes sense in their universe.

When that breaks down... the suspension of disbelief is broken and contradiction becomes distracting.

To have suspension of disbelief...minimal analysis is required

 

[flynnibus]

Sure there could have been a few things better explained or expanded on, but we couldn't have a 6hr movie.

Instead we got... Thor loves his mom... (we already knew.. didn't advance anything). An excuse for Thor to break out of his slump? Pretty boring inflection point honestly.

Tony really loves his dad... and cherrishes being a dad himself now? Was already covered in the earlier sequences where its revealed he has a kid, doesn't want to risk it, and makes it a requirement for time travel biz to not risk his kid. Again... not really needed.

Way too long selling 'The Dude' Thor... my guess this is investment in other asgard based properties for the future...

A pointless tangent about Hawkeye going vigilante...

etc. I don't think they made great investments in some of their choices for competing for runtime.

 

[Princess Leia]

I don't think they made great investments in some of their choices for competing for runtime.

That’s going to be a fascinating list, whenever that comes out.

Steve, Thor, Tony, Clint, and Nebula all seem to have had the most screentime. In Nebula’s case, it ends up breaking into ‘Redeemed Nebula’ and ‘Bad Nebula’.

Honestly, I would have liked more Carol. We barely saw her interact with the team- and I don’t remember any interactions with Fury at the end? That seems like a missed opportunity. “Hey I named this team after you.”

 

[DisneyJayL]

I couldn’t hear other people over myself at the end.

Taking one of my friends tonight. I won’t be sitting next to him. I don’t want him to see a grown man cry.

I don’t know how Marvel moves on honestly.

 

[Mike S]

That’s going to be a fascinating list, whenever that comes out.

Steve, Thor, Tony, Clint, and Nebula all seem to have had the most screentime. In Nebula’s case, it ends up breaking into ‘Redeemed Nebula’ and ‘Bad Nebula’.

Honestly, I would have liked more Carol. We barely saw her interact with the team- and I don’t remember any interactions with Fury at the end? That seems like a missed opportunity. “Hey I named this team after you.”

I remember rumors that the Russos weren’t really interested in putting her in the movie at all but were almost made to.

After seeing the movie I think that may be true. They gave her the absolute bare minimum.

 

[DisneyJayL]

That’s going to be a fascinating list, whenever that comes out.

Steve, Thor, Tony, Clint, and Nebula all seem to have had the most screentime. In Nebula’s case, it ends up breaking into ‘Redeemed Nebula’ and ‘Bad Nebula’.

Honestly, I would have liked more Carol. We barely saw her interact with the team- and I don’t remember any interactions with Fury at the end? That seems like a missed opportunity. “Hey I named this team after you.”

Carol hasn’t earned it. It felt good to see her humbled by Thanos. Now, I believe she’ll be a better character because of it.

 

[DisneyJayL]

When Sam said, “On your left!” My theater went nuts and so did I! That was such a good pay off. Wakanda coming in. OMG I am ready to see it again. Just not really ready to see my boy Tony die again.

 

[Mike S]

When Sam said, “On your left!” My theater went nuts and so did I! That was such a good pay off. Wakanda coming in. OMG I am ready to see it again. Just not really ready to see my boy Tony die again.

The whole ending sequence was pure gold. We even finally saw Peter activate instant kill lol.