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Rumor Avengers E-Ticket More Dead Than You'd Think

el_super

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But the ultimate hypocrisy is that they don’t really apply this same thinking to movies. Original movies like Moana, Zootopia, Luca, etc. are greenlit, but the idea of an original theme park ride is laughable to Bob Chapek.

I know @britain already touched on this, but generally speaking, the cost of having WDI do story development would be far more expensive, and not make the same return that having your studio produce something would net you. WDI's only option for producing an original story would be the equivalent of producing another Endgame level tent pole movie ($200M+), and not even the studios would take that gamble on an unknown story/franchise.

It also should be considered that, the studios SHOULD be far better at telling stories, because they've been at it far longer than Imagineering has.


The Non Descript Coaster Themed Like India or Whatever was a better return on investment than pretty much every domestic project since.

Yeah but this also betrays the darker reality of theme parks: Disney could make a lot of money if they just started building coasters like Universal and Sea World. Not going for the cheap win, is what sets Disney apart... right?
 

britain

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But but why can’t shoes be a storytelling medium!? I’m a creative genius that has found a really compelling way to tell unique stories with shoes that everyone will love if you’ll only give me a chance! Why am I condemned to churning out shoes with Anna & Elsa, Hulk, and BB8 on them!?
 

J4546

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the announcement of sse getting its major refurb makes me optimistic that disney is willing to keep spend some money....hopefully they put some towards phase 2 sooner than later!
 

lazyboy97o

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I know @britain already touched on this, but generally speaking, the cost of having WDI do story development would be far more expensive, and not make the same return that having your studio produce something would net you. WDI's only option for producing an original story would be the equivalent of producing another Endgame level tent pole movie ($200M+), and not even the studios would take that gamble on an unknown story/franchise.

It also should be considered that, the studios SHOULD be far better at telling stories, because they've been at it far longer than Imagineering has.




Yeah but this also betrays the darker reality of theme parks: Disney could make a lot of money if they just started building coasters like Universal and Sea World. Not going for the cheap win, is what sets Disney apart... right?
Claiming that the cost to develop new ideas is too much is just ignoring the real issue. The franchise mandate was not instituted in response to a failure, it was in a moment of success. If it’s goal was to contain costs then it has not just failed a little, but totally and completely as costs have spiraled out of control since it’s inception.

It makes no sense to just keep trying to treat symptoms in the same tepid manner when the disease is getting aggressively worse. Walt Disney Imagineering’s inability to deliver a cost effective attraction has nothing to do with the costs of developing a new idea nor is it the result of doing more than a bare steel coaster (which they can’t even do in a cost effective manner, see Slinky Dog Dash vs Time Traveler). The new Marvel E-Ticket is a shining example of the broken process. The project has been stuck in development hell for years now because Walt Disney Imagineering can’t develop an attraction with sufficient capacity within an already extremely high budget. Even when it seemed they might have something, Disney couldn’t justify the expense at that moment despite Marvel being their biggest franchise and even now there is hesitancy and reconsideration of the project.

But but why can’t shoes be a storytelling medium!? I’m a creative genius that has found a really compelling way to tell unique stories with shoes that everyone will love if you’ll only give me a chance! Why am I condemned to churning out shoes with Anna & Elsa, Hulk, and BB8 on them!?
You might have a point if most shoes weren’t free of branding and theme parks didn’t have a long history of compelling original attractions. And why couldn’t a talented designer use shoes to tell a story?
 

The Hitchhiker

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You might have a point if most shoes weren’t free of branding and theme parks didn’t have a long history of compelling original attractions. And why couldn’t a talented designer use shoes to tell a story?
If one were to use shoes to tell a story, would they be using these shoes by painting on them as one would a canvas or would it be to form a sculpture? In either case, the medium is the paint and the statuary, not the shoe itself. Just as paint is not a storytelling medium but painting is.

Anyway, sucks about the Avengers ride but I guess I'm not that surprised.
 

MisterPenguin

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But but why can’t shoes be a storytelling medium!? I’m a creative genius that has found a really compelling way to tell unique stories with shoes that everyone will love if you’ll only give me a chance! Why am I condemned to churning out shoes with Anna & Elsa, Hulk, and BB8 on them!?
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Suspirian

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I hate that management assumes guests will only respond positively to things they've already seen on TV and in movies... Or that movie-goers only want to watch live-action remakes of their animated favorites.
It’s kinda insane to me seeing that Disneyland is literally a brand in itself. The average person hearing of a new ride at Disneyland would be interested regardless of what its themed to be. You have a whole group of locals and super fans that buy passes and make repeated visits. To think they’d only want to see IP based attractions when you can literally throw anything in their face and they’d love it is strange to me.
 
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Suspirian

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Im kinda glad theres a possibility of getting a different e ticket considering the plan they had before seemed heavily screen based
 

Robbiem

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Maybe updating the theme would be a good idea. Like Galaxies Edge I do not really understand the idea behind theming something to a very specific time period when things have moved on, its almost like dating something before it opens so people don’t complain later how dated its become because its been that way all along.

It would also be interesting to see Disney use the marvel comics for inspiration rather than the movies. Imagine a runaway railway style set up where you jump into the pages of a comic strip - that could be a fun, timeless premise for an attraction
 

SirLink

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Just to point out the plans as far as I'm aware are sitting on the shelf all designed for Anaheim, Paris and Hong Kong. The only way this is built is if 3 are under construction at the same time. All three resorts are in different positions of stabilising in the midst of a pandemic. Then there is the recovery afterwards, before construction on new projects will begin. So that would put it around 2026
 

britain

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I had not heard that either, but I kind of figured since the art shows a Quinjet parked right above the very expendable stunt show area.
 

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