Avengers Campus - Reactions / Reviews

[Anjin]

This is random speculation, so please take it as such.

I've been thinking about the concept art we've seen so far and trying to figure out a story that explains it. My current theory is that Disney is going super meta.

What if the story of Marvel Land is that the Avengers are sponsoring the land directly as a public relations move? The rather garish structures then make sense if, instead of simulating the Marvel world a la Star Wars Land, it simulates how the MCU version of DCA might handle the heroes. They can then fold Mission Breakout into the land by explaining that the Collector showed up because of the Avengers' presence. Or, my preferred version, that the Avengers real reason for doing all this is because of the Collector mysteriously showing up in DCA.

Anyway, that's my silly theory.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

Yeah its no way Sony would sell Spider Man back to Marvel and in all honesty they shouldn't. Because remember its not just about SM, its about everyone else in that universe including Venom, which has basically made around $845 million! That's insane I don't think anyone saw that coming. That movie is only $40 million behind Homecoming now. And here is something else that may shock people but when you don't include the MCU films, Venom is now one of the most successful Marvel films ever! It has made more than all the X-Men and Deadpool films. And all the Spider-Man movies minus Spider-Man 3 (which still beats out Homecoming). Even when you do include MCU, it has still beaten 15 of those films. A character based on an anti-hero.

So Sony looks like its Marvel property is making a big come back, especially if the Spiderverse does really well too.

I actually have high expectations for Spiderverse.

Now forgive my naivete with the issues of IP ownership...but does Marvel see any money from these films? Or does Sony pocket it all? And could the MCU introduce Venom at some point? Or would they have to get Sony's permission?

 

[britain]

I actually have high expectations for Spiderverse.

Now forgive my naivete with the issues of IP ownership...but does Marvel see any money from these films? Or does Sony pocket it all? And could the MCU introduce Venom at some point? Or would they have to get Sony's permission?

Marvel/Disney gets a very small percentage from revenues of Sony’s Spider-Man related films. They COULD negotiate an agreement to have Venom show up in an MCU film, but it would either be: 1) a situation like in Civil War & Infinity War where Disney just used Spidey for “free” and Sony got MCU prestige (oh and Iron Man) added to Homecoming or 2) they’d pay some fee for using Venom.

Since the benefit of number one is already been achieved through Spiderman alone, I don’t really think they would bother crossing Venom over into the MCU.

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

This is random speculation, so please take it as such.

I've been thinking about the concept art we've seen so far and trying to figure out a story that explains it. My current theory is that Disney is going super meta.

What if the story of Marvel Land is that the Avengers are sponsoring the land directly as a public relations move? The rather garish structures then make sense if, instead of simulating the Marvel world a la Star Wars Land, it simulates how the MCU version of DCA might handle the heroes. They can then fold Mission Breakout into the land by explaining that the Collector showed up because of the Avengers' presence. Or, my preferred version, that the Avengers real reason for doing all this is because of the Collector mysteriously showing up in DCA.

Anyway, that's my silly theory.

Probably not far off. The Iron Man Experience at HKDL is 100% meta, complete with footage of Iron Man leaving his meet-n-greet location to come rescue you.

 

[britain]

Probably not far off. The Iron Man Experience at HKDL is 100% meta, complete with footage of Iron Man leaving his meet-n-greet location to come rescue you.

Yeah, it’s so meta you see the other lands outside of Tomorrowland in the ride! Castle and everything! Trip to the Moon covered Disneyland up with clouds!

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

Yeah, it’s so meta you see the other lands outside of Tomorrowland in the ride! Castle and everything! Trip to the Moon covered Disneyland up with clouds!

My favorite part is that you fly over the hotels.

 

[britain]

My favorite part is that you fly over the hotels.

Now, I suppose you can see other lands from the Matterhorn. And now we’ve got old Matterhorn and Skyway vehicles in Harold’s cave... I guess it’s really the Metahorn.

 

[THE 1HAPPY HAUNT]

This is random speculation, so please take it as such.

I've been thinking about the concept art we've seen so far and trying to figure out a story that explains it. My current theory is that Disney is going super meta.

What if the story of Marvel Land is that the Avengers are sponsoring the land directly as a public relations move? The rather garish structures then make sense if, instead of simulating the Marvel world a la Star Wars Land, it simulates how the MCU version of DCA might handle the heroes. They can then fold Mission Breakout into the land by explaining that the Collector showed up because of the Avengers' presence. Or, my preferred version, that the Avengers real reason for doing all this is because of the Collector mysteriously showing up in DCA.

Anyway, that's my silly theory.

That is more creative than what we are going to get. this is the group of "imagineers" that gave us Pixar Pier afterall.

 

[Sharon&Susan]

Have they updated the Iron Man Experience to remove Buzz and the original version of Sleeping Beauty Castle?

 

[fctiger]

I actually have high expectations for Spiderverse.

Now forgive my naivete with the issues of IP ownership...but does Marvel see any money from these films? Or does Sony pocket it all? And could the MCU introduce Venom at some point? Or would they have to get Sony's permission?

AFAIK, Marvel makes no money from the Spider Man movies but Sony makes no money from any movies SM appears in Marvel movies. It's simply a free exchange of the character although Sony can now use MCU characters in their Spidey movies like they did in Homecoming.

Now with Venom it seems very tricky. Technically he ISN'T in the MCU which means he has no relationship to the current Spider-Man, although Sony owns both of the characters. Amy Pascal, the ex-Sony President and now producer of their Marvel films has said he IS in the MCU now simply due to his connection with SM, but I don't think there are any direct plans to add him any time soon. But yes he COULD be introduced for sure. But as far as the deal he's currently isolated from all of that. But as all these Marvel properties are crossing into MCU one way or the other now I wouldn't be completely surprised there is a SM appearance in his next film at least and who knows what the future will be from there.

And Spiderverse sounds like it's a critical hit at least so things are looking up with their SM property. I'm going to check it out now.

 

[fctiger]

Yeah, it’s so meta you see the other lands outside of Tomorrowland in the ride! Castle and everything! Trip to the Moon covered Disneyland up with clouds!

Thats what makes it a fun ride, Iron Man and the expo are literally situated inside Disneyland. Whats more crazy is that in the ride there is a scene of IM taking pictures with guests in the meet and greet room before he comes to your rescue in downtown Hong Kong. That meet and greet scene is either the exact replica or was shot in the real meet and greet room, so it all feels very cohesive.

 

[DanielBB8]

That is more creative than what we are going to get. this is the group of "imagineers" that gave us Pixar Pier afterall.

In 5 stages of grief, I would call this the third stage: bargaining. We are almost at acceptance if we can justify it without Disney revealing anything about their intentions.

We are at the fourth stage (Depression) with Pixar Pier.

This fascination with backstory is really over the top. Imagineering have these elaborate stories that most guests don’t care to acknowledge yet the fandom requires it; however, they are just as happy to fill in the blanks themselves.

 

[britain]

ahem...


I said it's the METAhorn!


<crickets>


sigh.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

AFAIK, Marvel makes no money from the Spider Man movies but Sony makes no money from any movies SM appears in Marvel movies. It's simply a free exchange of the character although Sony can now use MCU characters in their Spidey movies like they did in Homecoming.

Now with Venom it seems very tricky. Technically he ISN'T in the MCU which means he has no relationship to the current Spider-Man, although Sony owns both of the characters. Amy Pascal, the ex-Sony President and now producer of their Marvel films has said he IS in the MCU now simply due to his connection with SM, but I don't think there are any direct plans to add him any time soon. But yes he COULD be introduced for sure. But as far as the deal he's currently isolated from all of that. But as all these Marvel properties are crossing into MCU one way or the other now I wouldn't be completely surprised there is a SM appearance in his next film at least and who knows what the future will be from there.

And Spiderverse sounds like it's a critical hit at least so things are looking up with their SM property. I'm going to check it out now.

Thanks. I'll be the first to admit I have no clue how any of that stuff works. I get that early on, Marvel needed to sell the rights to some of their characters in order to stay afloat, but I wonder how much they regret it now, especially in regards to the theme parks.

 

[MisterPenguin]

ahem...


I said it's the METAhorn!


<crickets>


sigh.

Am I back at Hoop-Dee-Doo?

 

[fctiger]

Thanks. I'll be the first to admit I have no clue how any of that stuff works. I get that early on, Marvel needed to sell the rights to some of their characters in order to stay afloat, but I wonder how much they regret it now, especially in regards to the theme parks.

Well hindsight is always 20/20 I guess. Truth is, I think its more of an issue of licensing Marvel to Universal Orlando (hence lets characters they can put in WDW) then it is about having all their characters. At this point they will have nearly every major character anyway once the FOX deal is final which is had the most licensed Marvel characters at one point.

 

[fctiger]

Fresh Baked dropped another video a few days ago and some great shots of ABL getting mowed down for Marvel. It's only the first six minutes of the video but pretty decent look inside and notices a lot of the tress has been cut down. The rest of the video has some great stuff too including Tropical Hideaway, DTD and the new parking lot.

 

[mickEblu]

Some new ( kind of) details on Marvel Land...

https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...iest-heroes-at-disney-parks-around-the-world/

 

[TROR]

There was an idea. To bring together a group of remarkable people, to see if they could become something more. It was called the Avengers Initiative.

That original idea has now evolved into a brand-new global Avengers Initiative. One that brings us—the next generation of remarkable people—together. To find our power and become something more. To see if we can work alongside the Avengers so we may all become stronger together.
The Stark Expo in Hong Kong was to be a first step: A world exposition whose theme of ‘A Better Tomorrow Today,’ was meant to inspire and motivate through technological innovation. However, shortly after it opened, the Expo was attacked by the forces of Hydra. When even more powerful forces threatened the entire planet, the Avengers realized that the Earth needs more heroes.
So today, to better defend the planet, the Avengers are setting up new Headquarters and technology sharing exchanges around the globe to empower and inspire all potential recruits willing to step up and become heroes.

In California and Paris, Tony Stark is retrofitting two of his father’s Stark Industries sites into new hubs for training and innovation. Through partnerships with S.H.I.E.L.D., Pym Technologies, Masters of the Mystic Arts and the new Worldwide Engineering Brigade, The Avengers and their allies will forge new global campuses to champion the next generation of heroes. Who’s ready to answer the call?

What a bunch of stupid mumbo jumbo

 

[Suspirian]

The typical Disney word soup