Avatar: The Way of the Water... what did you think? (No spoilers)

[The Colonel]

A tale as old as time...
Native good. Native innocent. Native decent. Native Noble.
"other" man bad. "other" man evil.
Military bad. Colonialism Bad. Capitalism Bad.
Rebel good. Guerilla good.

 

[Jedijax719]

The Last Jedi dropped the same as what Avatar2 will have dropped from its predecessor. People even suggesting that Avatar 3 won't happen are acting delusional. I'd say that Avatar 3 and 4 are no brainers. After that we can discuss if there will be any more.

That's like saying there won't be any more Black Panther movies. Of course there will be.

Will Avatar 2 fall below expectations? Of course. But that doesn't mean the sky is falling on the franchise. When the first movie is THAT high, people have to temper their expectations for the sequel. Have we not learned from TFA, JW, and BP?

 

[DKampy]

I noticed the lack of 'sexy scenes', which to be honest, I'm surprised they didn't throw that in there too, but it was too violent. I enjoyed the "chilling in the water" parts, but I wish there was more of that instead of all the war stuff. I say appropriate for 12 and up, plus with it being so long, I knew the younger kids would get restless and that they did lol.

In fairness it is rated PG13 so no one is suggesting you bring someone under 12

 

[BuddyThomas]

I've heard that Avatar 3 is happening no matter what. However, subsequent films will depend on how well the second one does. If Avatar 2 doesn't do quite as well as they want it to, there is already a plan to wrap up the story in Avatar 3.

The third film has already been shot. James Cameron says he has already filmed the first 25 pages of Avatar 4, and there are multiple sequels planned.

So What’s Going to Happen in the Avatar Sequels After Way of Water?

James Cameron helpfully affirms they will “make you yourself with your mouth wide open.”

www.vulture.com

 

[Ghost93]

Even if the Avatar series severely underperforms and only makes like $1 billion per movie, I still think Disney should continue to make the films as they help drive interest in the Pandora section of the animal kingdom and can provide spin-off merchandise.

 

[Elijah Abrams]

Disney buying Fox was a gift to this film.

A bad gift though for the company overall, especially after COVID!

 

[celluloid]

You should have a lot to say in a three plus hour film. This movie did not.
There was not much joy in the film and if you make an over three hour film you need better comic relief.

And the writing was first draft worthy, an issue when you take 11 years to make a film follow up.

James Cameron got his wish to film underwater for a feature film. Yay for him.


I wish I could have just seen The Fableman's again.

 

[Disney Irish]

James Cameron got his wish to film underwater for a feature film. Yay for him.

He had already done that for The Abyss in 1989, 40% was filmed underwater. Plus all his NatGeo documentary stuff and trips to the Mariana Trench.

So don't think this film was just so he could film underwater, again.

 

[celluloid]

So don't think this film was just so he could film underwater, again.

I never stated it was his first time, nor the only reason but a huge reason he and hype machine for it for the last decade stated. They invented a new underwater filming process he has been wanting to use. He has a passion for it. He does not want to just do it once.
This was the first time with this type of camera and filming technique.

 

[Disney Irish]

I never stated it was his first time, nor the only reason but a huge reason he and hype machine for it for the last decade stated. They invented a new underwater filming process he has been wanting to use. He has a passion for it. He does not want to just do it once.
This was the first time with this type of camera and filming technique.

I get your point, and yes I'm fully aware of his passion for underwater filming. I'm just saying that I think it being a "huge reason" is a bit overblown.

 

[celluloid]

I get your point, and yes I'm fully aware of his passion for underwater filming. I'm just saying that I think it being a "huge reason" is a bit overblown.

Why is that so hard to accept? Then why make it take place in the setting and want to invent a new camera system for that factor? He said after the first one was a hit he was going to do it underwater next.

Your definition of huge reason is splitting hairs.

He was the helm and creative control. It's a huge reason.

 

[Disney Irish]

Why is that so hard to accept? Then why make it take place in the setting and want to invent a new camera system for that factor? He said after the first one was a hit he was going to do it underwater next.

Your definition of huge reason is splitting hairs.

He was the helm and creative control. It's a huge reason.

I'm just of the opinion its not as a huge of a factor as you think it is. If you believe it is so be it. There could have been many other stories to tell besides this one if it was just about filming underwater and creating a new system for it.

 

[celluloid]

I'm just of the opinion its not as a huge of a factor as you think it is. If you believe it is so be it. There could have been many other stories to tell besides this one if it was just about filming underwater and creating a new system for it.

How do you know my definition of "huge reason?" and why are you so bent on wanting to invalidate it? Is it not reasonable to call it that when The director said ten years ago he was working on a new system so he could film underwater the way he wanted to in a feature film? That is direct from the source.

Again with the word "just." Where did I say that was the ONLY reason? You keep misrepresenting my posts when you do that.

 

[Jedijax719]

JC is going to HAVE to take things in a different direction! Or, should I say, hopefully he DID take things in a different direction considering the ball's already been rolling for the next film or two. They can't keep recycling the same thing.

 

[Disney Irish]

How do you know my definition of "huge reason?" and why are you so bent on wanting to invalidate it? Is it not reasonable to call it that when The director said ten years ago he was working on a new system so he could film underwater the way he wanted to in a feature film? That is direct from the source.

Again with the word "just." Where did I say that was the ONLY reason? You keep misrepresenting my posts when you do that.

I have a different opinion, that's it. So nobody is invalidating anything. If you believe its a huge reason, whatever your definition, why he made this specific film, cool.

Its a discussion forum, not everyone has to agree with your opinions my friend.

 

[celluloid]

I have a different opinion, that's it. So nobody is invalidating anything. If you believe its a huge reason, whatever your definition, why he made this specific film, cool.

Its a discussion forum, not everyone has to agree with your opinions my friend.

No, but you should engage in discourse with supporting reasons if you want discussion.

And if you disagree with the source saying that is why he did it, than you are misinformed, or he is a liar.

Continually stating that I said that was the only reason with the word "Just" is not accurate and rude or the lack of comprehension, Therefore not a discussion or an opinion. That is invalidating.

That leaves the James Cameron is not honest, you are not willing to comprehend my opinion, or you originally wanted to invalidate it. You did not leave room for much discussion.

 

[Disney Irish]

No, but you should engage in discourse with supporting reasons if you want discussion.

And if you disagree with the source saying that is why he did it, than you are misinformed, or he is a liar.

I'm happy to learn what he specifically said and adjust my opinion. Please provide a link to where I can read up on this.

As for the rest of your comments that you added after, I think its best to just move on from that. I appreciate your opinions and discussion on this.

 

[celluloid]

I'm happy to learn what he specifically said and adjust my opinion. Please provide a link to where I can read up on this.

https://screenrant.com/avatar-2-sequel-release-date-delay/#:~:text=James Cameron Needed To Perfect,its time to begin with.

I really don't need an update on your take on the articles. I just wanted to share an example to give a reminder of what has been posted on the film in the past that I presume if one was making counterpoints would be known. (you can find many more around through reputable reporting, searches and interviews with the director himself if you care to)

So you decide if that leaves the James Cameron not honest about the process, you are not willing to comprehend the facts I present, or you originally wanted to invalidate me.

 

[Disney Irish]

https://screenrant.com/avatar-2-seq...eron Needed To Perfect,its time to begin with.

I really don't need an update on your take on the articles. I just wanted to share an example to give a reminder of what has been posted on the film in the past that I presume if one was making counterpoints would be known. (you can find many more around through reputable reporting, searches and interviews with the director himself if you care to)

So you decide if that leaves the James Cameron not honest about the process, you are not willing to comprehend my opinion, or you originally wanted to invalidate it.

Thank you for posting this. Most of this I already knew, but reading it I can see your points. I agree part of this film's development process, and why it took so long, was the further development that was needed of the technology for underwater filming. Was a huge part of making this film so he could build the ultimate underwater filming system, I don't know. My opinion is probably not, but its just an opinion.

But again I appreciate the discussion.

 

[AVeryDifferentDisneyDad]

It is always interesting to read people's comments, and to tactfully notice slants and trolling.

The 1st Avatar was the highest grossing film in the history of movies until the Marvel world exploded. And after an opening weekend of over $130M, "The Way of Water" is well on its way.

As a few folks correctly noted, at three hour and a half hours long, theaters aren't able to roll as many viewings as they would normally do without committing it to even more screens in the building. Four or five showings a day, per screen, per theater adds up to a LOT of Opening Weekend money it missed with this length.

This movie is incredible. Visually, it has no equal. Not even the original. The high definition detail was mesmerizing.

Too violent? Well, that would be a point of contention for me. The whole concept of 1st, being strong enough to live off the land and not have a Whole Foods to buy your groceries is VIOLENT, and 2nd, having a foreign invader pillage your land is VIOLENT. Have you had an conversations with the Elders of your local Indian Tribes?

I'm assuming you are looking at this movie through the lens of your Mikey glasses. If you still sing, "Good Morning" songs to your teenagers and send them off to school with kisses and little surprises in their lunch boxes, then, yeah, this movie is probably too violent for your family. My wife and three teenagers had no problem with it.

Their only complaint was when someone had to miss part of the movie for bathroom runs, or popcorn & drink refills.

I have spoken to numerous friends and acquaintances who have seen it. Every single one was blown away and loved it. Two had not seen Avatar and were going to watch it as soon as they could to fill in some minor gaps. Outstanding job, James.

9.5 out of 10 (easy 10 out of 10 if Cameron could have landed it in at 2.45)