chadwpalm
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It is kinda funny that as soon as Avatar 2 was a hit they latched on to it and mentioned it pretty quickly. Still no updates to what the new Marvel ride will be, especially since the Marvel movies haven't been doing very fantastic dollars-wise.
I think Disney is fumbling Marvel by continuing to push out product constantly, even though Endgame would have been a natural point to take a breather. While I don't follow the Marvel movies closely, the perception I get is that the newest movies aren't as strong as the ones before and audience fatigue is growing.It is kinda funny that as soon as Avatar 2 was a hit they latched on to it and mentioned it pretty quickly. Still no updates to what the new Marvel ride will be, especially since the Marvel movies haven't been doing very fantastic dollars-wise.
I still think that was the most bizarre reaction. People cheered when they announced a Disney aisle in Target stores a few years back… cheered when a giant Hulk in his endgame costume waddled on stage last year…. but aren’t excited about details on what should be their best Marvel ride? Weird crowd!Heh. I remember watching that panel live... and laughing at the audible "Huh?"s when Bob excitedly proclaimed 'Where you'll meet KING THANOS!!!!' *crickets*
In fairness a) there was more goodwill toward anything the company did a few years back b) Hulk is very cool looking in person and was a happy surprise and c) people were DONE with Bob C. by this point - he could've announced the second coming of Walt and gotten crickets.I still think that was the most bizarre reaction. People cheered when they announced a Disney aisle in Target stores a few years back… cheered when a giant Hulk in his endgame costume waddled on stage last year…. but aren’t excited about details on what should be their best Marvel ride? Weird crowd!
It is kinda funny that as soon as Avatar 2 was a hit they latched on to it and mentioned it pretty quickly. Still no updates to what the new Marvel ride will be, especially since the Marvel movies haven't been doing very fantastic dollars-wise.
As someone who has never been a Marvel fan, it's weird to me how it took 15 years of constant sequels and re-makes before people only just now started going "Ok, NOW I'm tired!". To me, Marvel has been back-to-back rehashing ever since the beginning.I think Disney is fumbling Marvel by continuing to push out product constantly, even though Endgame would have been a natural point to take a breather. While I don't follow the Marvel movies closely, the perception I get is that the newest movies aren't as strong as the ones before and audience fatigue is growing.
I get that it's a huge money maker for them, but I feel like what would ultimately be best for Marvel right now would be to take a few years off. Give the creative teams time to recharge and give the audience time to miss going to see them.
As much as pop culture's mantra (especially Disney's) is to continue to recycle beloved characters ad infinitum and never let things reach an endpoint, I also think there's value in stepping away from something for awhile and coming back to it after a break. Otherwise the bottom will be more likely to fall out completely and it will be more difficult recover its prior pull with the audience.
As someone who has never been a Marvel fan, it's weird to me how it took 15 years of constant sequels and re-makes before people only just now started going "Ok, NOW I'm tired!". To me, Marvel has been back-to-back rehashing ever since the beginning.
Hulk was on Campus at DCA for two months and is going to be appearing at Avengers Campus Paris soon (announced at SXSW). I expect him to return to DCA whenever his character next appears onscreen.They announce Hulk and he appears for a few days and disappears. How many millions did that cost to never be seen again?
Except they don't. Look at the Muppet Mobile Lab, R2-D2 and Lucky. They appeared and toured and then disappeared. If you were lucky, you saw them but most everyday guests never did. In the old days, it was easier to randomly catch Push roaming around Tomorrowland.Hulk was on Campus at DCA for two months and is going to be appearing at Avengers Campus Paris soon (announced at SXSW). I expect him to return to DCA whenever his character next appears onscreen.
The technology will allow plenty of other characters to appear in the parks as well, not just at Campus. But considering two of the previewed/publicized "body parts" when the project was in development were pretty clearly Thanos' hand and Wampa feet, I have a good feeling about this.![]()
I'm still not sure it's fatigue, or if it's the fact that most of Marvel's recent films are not of the same quality of what came before. This phase has been mostly a miss with the critics, and audience scores have suffered as well.
I remember being stoked for Dr. Strange and the Multiverse of Madness and Thor Love and Thunder, and left disappointed after both of those. Apparently the new Ant Man kind of sucks.
I have no doubt if the movies were back to their old quality of storytelling the box office numbers would return.
Spider-Man 7 made it's biggest Box Office haul last year.
There are examples of franchises growing in profitability and examples of franchises shrinking in profitability.
To hold that franchising is always a losing proposition doesn't hold true in the face of counter-examples.
Every serialized TV series is an example of ongoing franchisement. Some don't last one season, others go for 5, or 10, or or forever (cf. The Simpsons).
If ongoing franchisement was always going to lead to fatigue, then The Office, and Friends, and the various CSIs and Laws and Orders wouldn't exist. And there wouldn't be hype about a John Wick 5 right now.
Except they don't. Look at the Muppet Mobile Lab, R2-D2 and Lucky. They appeared and toured and then disappeared. If you were lucky, you saw them but most everyday guests never did. In the old days, it was easier to randomly catch Push roaming around Tomorrowland.
Besides, what is so amazing about a guy on stilts holding out stick arms?
I was going to say the same thing when I researched the Muppet Mobile Lab. I guess they moved it around to different parks but I still think the point is valid. Recently, they introduced a new robotic character at SXSW. It's on rollerskates and maybe had rabbit ears? All I could think of was that this would be in the park for a couple of weeks and disappear.
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