DAK Avatar construction aerial updates

[George]

Since you are doing requests, do you have any pictures of what it looks like when it's done?

My time machine rental rates may be beyond even what a fancy pants pilot photographer guy could afford. Plus, you wouldn't believe the no fly zone rules that will be in place during the soft opening on 8/12/2017.

 

[RayTheFirefly]

I find it interesting that Disney is essentially recreating the Land pavilion at AK. Soarin 2.0 and a boatride that goes inside and outside. Hopefully the boat ride is different enough than the e-ticket which is obviously taking you to pandora. What could the boat ride be that isn't just another trip around pandora? Maybe similar to living with the land where you move slowly through pandora and learn about the plants and life forms?

I know most people will think this is lame, but I wouldn't mind if the boat ride had a strong "love-and-take-care-of-the-earth" message as I've heard the movie does (I haven't seen it, but I heard that it lays on the "stop murdering the planet" message pretty thick). The whole park's message is really supposed to be about animals and conservation, so it seems like the perfect opportunity to talk about it if that's the message of the movie.

 

[twebber55]

I know most people will think this is lame, but I wouldn't mind if the boat ride had a strong "love-and-take-care-of-the-earth" message as I've heard the movie does (I haven't seen it, but I heard that it lays on the "stop murdering the planet" message pretty thick). The whole park's message is really supposed to be about animals and conservation, so it seems like the perfect opportunity to talk about it if that's the message of the movie.

i see the boat ride as a Pandora 101 class maybe narrated by Sigourney Weaver with a maybe a small drop or two

 

[danlb_2000]

I was thinking a little more about the board ride. The leaked blueprints showed what looked like a traditional water ride with a clear boat path. On the other hand that concept art shows a more open body of water without a clear path, which is more consistent with what we see in the aerial. I wonder if this is going to use a new ride system, maybe something that gives the boat more freedom of movement.

 

[BuzzKillington]

Great thread OP and thanks for doing this. I just hope it opens by Fall of 2017 because we go every two years in September and this would be our last visit as a family.

 

[RayTheFirefly]

I was thinking a little more about the board ride. The leaked blueprints showed what looked like a traditional water ride with a clear boat path. On the other hand that concept art shows a more open body of water without a clear path, which is more consistent with what we see in the aerial. I wonder if this is going to use a new ride system, maybe something that gives the boat more freedom of movement.

It could very easily have a path, but just under a few inches of water so that all you see is a big open body of water.

 

[doctornick]

And yes, brown area is the portion of the building where boat ride will swing through at ground level, with a 2-story high show building (not two floors, just two stories of space). A portion of the E-ticket queue will be above the brown area of the boat ride. I don't know if boat ride will consume all of the blue area, but it will definitely be in that area for much of the ride and/or queue.

You are getting that from the leaked plans (and synthesizing them with what is present on the aerial), right?

I'm confused as to how the queue for the E-ticket would work. That seems like a lot of ramps to get people up to a 3rd story without using elevators. Plus, if you load the ride on different levels as has been suggested, I'm curious as guests would be directed to each level.

 

[doctornick]

I was thinking a little more about the board ride. The leaked blueprints showed what looked like a traditional water ride with a clear boat path. On the other hand that concept art shows a more open body of water without a clear path, which is more consistent with what we see in the aerial. I wonder if this is going to use a new ride system, maybe something that gives the boat more freedom of movement.

And it's been established that the Pirates ride in Shanghai has a ride system where the boat can be "directed" towards scenes like an Omnimover. I would not be surprised to see the same thing here.

 

[Donfan]

One of you Photo Shop wizards needs to take Scott's great aerial photo that shows the whole extent of the area and superimpose it over a shot of the MK at the same scale so that we can get an idea of the actual size of this place. Thanks, in advance, for doing it.

 

[twebber55]

You are getting that from the leaked plans (and synthesizing them with what is present on the aerial), right?

I'm confused as to how the queue for the E-ticket would work. That seems like a lot of ramps to get people up to a 3rd story without using elevators. Plus, if you load the ride on different levels as has been suggested, I'm curious as guests would be directed to each level.

have you ever been on Simpsons at Universal? thats what i imagine for this ride...better more up to date technology

 

[flyerjab]

And it's been established that the Pirates ride in Shanghai has a ride system where the boat can be "directed" towards scenes like an Omnimover. I would not be surprised to see the same thing here.

A trackless boat ride system. That would be incredible - and unique. Everytime I look back at the concept art for this ride the possibilities for this to be an exceptional experience with lighting and AAs is tremendous.

Concerning the E-Ticket structure, I am wondering at what lenght they will go to theme this one, as theming and immersive environments are what DAK proudly boasts at every turn (except for maybe Dinoland USA ). If this ride is to truly be as though you have climbed atop an ikran (for the uninitiated, the flying thingies in the Avatar movie) in the Floating Mountains, I am wondering if the immense queu for this will be themed to caves that you climb to get to the top of one of the Floating Mountains where the ikran prefer to hang. The queu for this is either going to be exceptional or it is going to be 'meh' as they won't have gone to the lengths that they could/should have to fully immerse you in this ride. Looking at the designed queus for EE and KRR, I am betting that the queu will be exceptional.

 

[Mike S]

A trackless boat ride system. That would be incredible - and unique. Everytime I look back at the concept art for this ride the possibilities for this to be an exceptional experience with lighting and AAs is tremendous.

Concerning the E-Ticket structure, I am wondering at what lenght they will go to theme this one, as theming and immersive environments are what DAK proudly boasts at every turn (except for maybe Dinoland USA ). If this ride is to truly be as though you have climbed atop an ikran (for the uninitiated, the flying thingies in the Avatar movie) in the Floating Mountains, I am wondering if the immense queu for this will be themed to caves that you climb to get to the top of one of the Floating Mountains where the ikran prefer to hang. The queu for this is either going to be exceptional or it is going to be 'meh' as they won't have gone to the lengths that they could/should have to fully immerse you in this ride. Looking at the designed queus for EE and KRR, I am betting that the queu will be exceptional.

I never thought of that as a way to theme the queue. Thanks, now anything short of that will leave me disappointed

 

[RayTheFirefly]

A trackless boat ride system. That would be incredible - and unique. Everytime I look back at the concept art for this ride the possibilities for this to be an exceptional experience with lighting and AAs is tremendous.

Concerning the E-Ticket structure, I am wondering at what lenght they will go to theme this one, as theming and immersive environments are what DAK proudly boasts at every turn (except for maybe Dinoland USA ). If this ride is to truly be as though you have climbed atop an ikran (for the uninitiated, the flying thingies in the Avatar movie) in the Floating Mountains, I am wondering if the immense queu for this will be themed to caves that you climb to get to the top of one of the Floating Mountains where the ikran prefer to hang. The queu for this is either going to be exceptional or it is going to be 'meh' as they won't have gone to the lengths that they could/should have to fully immerse you in this ride. Looking at the designed queus for EE and KRR, I am betting that the queu will be exceptional.

I think the EE queue is one of the best in WDW. Hopefully this one will be on the same level.

 

[flyerjab]

I never thought of that as a way to theme the queue. Thanks, now anything short of that will leave me disappointed

Sorry about that. I will stop being so creative in my thought process from now on.

 

[NeXuS1000]

One of you Photo Shop wizards needs to take Scott's great aerial photo that shows the whole extent of the area and superimpose it over a shot of the MK at the same scale so that we can get an idea of the actual size of this place. Thanks, in advance, for doing it.

Dunno if this is what you were after, but here goes...

Pandora in MK

It's a Small World scale in Pandora

Under The Sea incl. queue and grotto scale in Pandora

Seven Dwarfs Mine Train scale in Pandora

You can roughly fill Pandora with 8x It's a Small World (minus queue)

 

[Mike S]

Sorry about that. I will stop being so creative in my thought process from now on.

That's the Disney way

 

[Timothy_Q]

A trackless boat ride system. That would be incredible - and unique.

We can only dream

 

[Tom]

I was thinking a little more about the board ride. The leaked blueprints showed what looked like a traditional water ride with a clear boat path. On the other hand that concept art shows a more open body of water without a clear path, which is more consistent with what we see in the aerial. I wonder if this is going to use a new ride system, maybe something that gives the boat more freedom of movement.

And it's been established that the Pirates ride in Shanghai has a ride system where the boat can be "directed" towards scenes like an Omnimover. I would not be surprised to see the same thing here.

This is what I was thinking all along. The boats DO have a designated ride path, as I recall, but it seemed like this would be a good ride to use the patent they filed a few years ago where there are 2 pivot points under the boat that follow two separate guide rails. As the rails get further apart, it causes the boat to turn, while still floating forward. Very much like an omnimover, where they control your line of sight.

I'm confused as to how the queue for the E-ticket would work. That seems like a lot of ramps to get people up to a 3rd story without using elevators. Plus, if you load the ride on different levels as has been suggested, I'm curious as guests would be directed to each level.

The entire queuing system for E-Ticket will be quite enduring. Imagine Big Thunder, only on a much bigger scale. Ramping up outside (or through mountains as someone suggested), then winding through switchbacks on a fairly flat surface for a while (over the C-Ticket ride), then going up or down a series of ramps to get to the 3 boarding levels for the E-Ticket.

And worse, when you exit the E-Ticket ride, you have to go down multiple flights of stairs (similar to some Universal rides, and the Aladdin theater out in DCA).

Dunno if this is what you were after, but here goes...

Pandora in MK

It's a Small World scale in Pandora

Under The Sea incl. queue and grotto scale in Pandora

Seven Dwarfs Mine Train scale in Pandora

You can roughly fill Pandora with 8x It's a Small World (minus queue)

Wow, I was way off on my IsAW comparison. The side building is more comparable to Mermaid.

Relatively speaking, Avatar is going on a small plot of land. They're going to cram a lot into a little area.

 

[RSoxNo1]

You are getting that from the leaked plans (and synthesizing them with what is present on the aerial), right?

I'm confused as to how the queue for the E-ticket would work. That seems like a lot of ramps to get people up to a 3rd story without using elevators. Plus, if you load the ride on different levels as has been suggested, I'm curious as guests would be directed to each level.

I'm expecting it to be similar to The Simpsons.

 

[George]

Dunno if this is what you were after, but here goes...

Pandora in MK

It's a Small World scale in Pandora

Under The Sea incl. queue and grotto scale in Pandora

Seven Dwarfs Mine Train scale in Pandora

You can roughly fill Pandora with 8x It's a Small World (minus queue)

Typical. Instead of a new ride we're getting 8 IaSWs. Utter rubbish.