Avatar construction aerial updates

[VulcanCafe]

Yes it was OT but there is a subthread of 'Avatar 2 is a sure thing at the box office', My question is what happens to the LAND if the film bombs, Remember this is both a CEO vanity project which is designed to 'synergize' with the release of Avatar 2 (3?).

So in the event of a box office #FAIL what becomes of 'Pandora' are the rides cut back even further than they are today. It's well known I'm not a fan of this IP - but we REALLY do need something else in AK and I'm afraid if the film fails so does the land.

I disagree. This could be a scenario where the content of the theme park version surpasses the content of the [upcoming] film. The film version of Pandora really lends itself to a spectacularly themed environment.

Also, over the decades, James Cameron has proved to be a box office genius. I wouldn't bet against him.

 

[space42]

What is Pirates considered?

Pirates is the quintessential Disney E-ticket.

 

[twebber55]

Yes it was OT but there is a subthread of 'Avatar 2 is a sure thing at the box office', My question is what happens to the LAND if the film bombs, Remember this is both a CEO vanity project which is designed to 'synergize' with the release of Avatar 2 (3?).

So in the event of a box office #FAIL what becomes of 'Pandora' are the rides cut back even further than they are today. It's well known I'm not a fan of this IP - but we REALLY do need something else in AK and I'm afraid if the film fails so does the land.

Cars 2 bombed and it had zero effect on the land
the land will be 90% completed when the second movie comes out
but like i said this discussion is not really for this thread and it interrupts some very good discussion about the aerials

 

[Master Yoda]

Yes it was OT but there is a subthread of 'Avatar 2 is a sure thing at the box office', My question is what happens to the LAND if the film bombs, Remember this is both a CEO vanity project which is designed to 'synergize' with the release of Avatar 2 (3?).

So in the event of a box office #FAIL what becomes of 'Pandora' are the rides cut back even further than they are today. It's well known I'm not a fan of this IP - but we REALLY do need something else in AK and I'm afraid if the film fails so does the land.

Anything is possible, but I do not really see the movies having an negative effect on the popularity of the land regardless of how they perform.

If the land has good attractions, immersive environments, quality restaurants, etc people will come. A good showing at the box office will help, but it will ultimately the success or failure of Pandora will come down to the quality of what they build.

Just look at Splash Mountain. It is one of the most popular attractions at MK and I would wager that most people on it have never see or even heard of Song of the South.

 

[danlb_2000]

Can we please take the discussion of the success/failure of the Avatar sequels to another thread.

 

[ford91exploder]

Anything is possible, but I do not really see the movies having an negative effect on the popularity of the land regardless of how they perform.

If the land has good attractions, immersive environments, quality restaurants, etc people will come. A good showing at the box office will help, but it will ultimately the success or failure of Pandora will come down to the quality of what they build.

Just look at Splash Mountain. It is one of the most popular attractions at MK and I would wager that most people on it have never see or even heard of Song of the South.

Agree with you I do @Master Yoda, I HOPE TWDC lets this project stand on it's own and does not cut back IF the movie does not do well.

Now lets get back to analyzing the photo. Any possibility that we could get a copy of the RAW image so we can take it apart on Photoshop????

 

[danlb_2000]

Agree with you I do @Master Yoda, I HOPE TWDC lets this project stand on it's own and does not cut back IF the movie does not do well.

Now lets get back to analyzing the photo. Any possibility that we could get a copy of the RAW image so we can take it apart on Photoshop????

Yeah, I would like to see some higher res closeups of the key areas.

 

[ford91exploder]

Pirates is the quintessential Disney E-ticket.

It is indeed - E-ticket != thrill ride it refers more to the immersive nature of the ride it can INCLUDE thrills (ToT) but they are not a required element Small World and Tiki Lounge were both E-tickets when they opened.

 

[Hakunamatata]

Yeah, it's sort of embarrassing that those photos were taken basically 10.5 months apart and very little has gotten done in terms of building this land.

Out of curiosity, do you have any experience in building large structures in swampland?

 

[sshindel]

Out of curiosity, do you have any experience in building large structures in swampland?

I built a stick fort a few hundred feet from a swamp once. A raccoon or something knocked it down at night, but I think that qualifies me to judge the pace of their construction.

 

[Hakunamatata]

I built a stick fort a few hundred feet from a swamp once. A raccoon or something knocked it down at night, but I think that qualifies me to judge the pace of their construction.

You must not have built it to code.

 

[doctornick]

So, given the what seems like the footprint for the two rides, there looks to be a lot of other room that can be used for other purposes. I hope that there will be a "walking trail" like other areas of the park, but in this case featuring AA animals or light up flora from Pandora. I also hope that they leave some some space (maybe in the southern and southeastern parts) which could be an expansion pad in the future for a third ride.

 

[Mickey_777]

That's a pretty decent sized area wouldn't you say?

 

[rioriz]

Here is my guess on how this pictures fits into the aerial. I have labeled 4 landmarks in both images.

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From your perspective it seems like the rectangular spot in front of the main E show building will be where the large waterfall sits. Once you get under the floating mountain that will be the showstopping view!

 

[danlb_2000]

From your perspective it seems like the rectangular spot in front of the main E show building will be where the large waterfall sits. Once you get under the floating mountain that will be the showstopping view!

Another opportunity to view the backside of water!

 

[Next Big Thing]

Out of curiosity, do you have any experience in building large structures in swampland?

Nope, but I do have a feeling that if they wanted to, they could be farther along by now. They just choose not to be to spread costs. Avatar doesn't need to be open until 2017 after all, right?

 

[lobelia]

Clearly, I have no construction experience or knowledge, but my impression is that they were further than I thought they would be. It looks like the ground is graded and a considerable amount of footings are in. The construction site seems to be established too. Relative to what still needs to be built, I guess we are not very far along.

 

[ford91exploder]

Another opportunity to view the backside of water!

Ah Schweitzer Falls most beautiful waterfall in the world (WDW that is)

 

[Mike S]

Clearly, I have no construction experience or knowledge, but my impression is that they were further than I thought they would be. It looks like the ground is graded and a considerable amount of footings are in. The construction site seems to be established too. Relative to what still needs to be built, I guess we are not very far along.

Monorail footings?

 

[lobelia]

Just don't say it three times.....someone might appear.