AVATAR breaks ground

[Tom]

So, I heard they broke ground on Avatar. Then I saw 34 pages of dumb.

 

[unkadug]

So, I heard they broke ground on Avatar. Then I saw 34 pages of dumb.

Discussion here:
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/avatar-breaks-ground.878875/

 

[TubaGeek]

Can Disney keep a secret? It would be pretty cool if there are extra attractions tied to this project, attractions that haven't been spoiled before the groundbreaking...when was the last time that happened?

I'm gonna say no, based on how heavily they advertise the "best kept Disney secret".

 

[scout68]

Did you say..... another three years??

Three More Years...
Three More Years...
Three More Years...

Brought to you by the Refurblican party 2017.

 

[SirLink]

Ironically, the last big secret they kept was signing the Avatar deal.

Yet people on this very site knew about it, but laughed it off ...

 

[WDWDad13]

did some of us see the Lucas or Marvel acquisition coming?

 

[FrankLapidus]

did some of us see the Lucas or Marvel acquisition coming?

There were rumours that something was happening between Disney and Lucasfilm. I can't remember if anyone said that Disney buying them outright was on the cards but there was talk of meetings between the two parties and suggestions that something was in the offing.

 

[Disneybear]

And one of the rides sucks right? Flying tires?

Just saying that IF the simulator is as mind blowing as we hope and the boat ride does look promising... The boat ride definitely has more potential than the Mater ride and the Not So Flying Tires. The renderings of the environment look incredible. This has the potential as an absolutely solid addition and people are acting like TDO is putting up circus tents again.

We all get that AK needs more rides. Two probably isn't enough. But this goes a long way to making the park a big time draw.

And both these rides are to be indoor rides (not sure if the whole of the boat ride is indoor), which is what most people have been asking for; for some time now.

 

[JEANYLASER]

Do you know name of the boat ride will be in Avatar?

 

[lobelia]

Just curious.....there seems to be some cynicism that TDO on this forum that the project won't knock our socks off. So my question for you all is...What will this attraction need be to make us happy?

 

[djkidkaz]

I think the disappointment also comes from the fact we're getting a screen based E-ticket. It's always going to be better when an attraction physically moves and takes you somewhere rather than simulates you going somewhere. I think if Disney announces the remake of Hollywood Studios with Star Wars land it will definitely lessen the sting of Avatar and people will be more akin to give it a chance.

 

[SirLink]

Just curious.....there seems to be some cynicism that TDO on this forum that the project won't knock our socks off. So my question for you all is...What will this attraction need be to make us happy?

Use cutting edge technology to at least equal one that of Forbidden Journey, if in anyway I am sitting on seat rocking back and forth seeing Pandora in 3D - they have unanimously failed ... but that is more to do with WDI and Burbank ... TDO just won't maintain whatever they get.

 

[SirLink]

I think the disappointment also comes from the fact we're getting a screen based E-ticket. It's always going to be better when an attraction physically moves and takes you somewhere rather than simulates you going somewhere. I think if Disney announces the remake of Hollywood Studios with Star Wars land it will definitely lessen the sting of Avatar and people will be more akin to give it a chance.

Nope that isn't it, its the fact that it most likely will be a)Soarin and b)possibly not Vekomas I-ride system.

 

[lobelia]

To be clear I wasn't referring to the cynicism to be critical. I too like feeling like I am on an adventure.

I hope they hide blue aliens in the trees that look like they are spying on me as I walk through. That way I feel like I am inserting my humanness in an alien environment. I want lots of water. How about an exhibit with real life organisms that glow. I'll never forget sailing to Bimini and watching the boat carve through the bioluminescent microbes in the water. I know there are some worms that glow. I want to be struck with wonder.

 

[danlb_2000]

Just curious.....there seems to be some cynicism that TDO on this forum that the project won't knock our socks off. So my question for you all is...What will this attraction need be to make us happy?

Some people won't be happy unless the ride actually transports them to the planet of Pandora.

I think the disappointment also comes from the fact we're getting a screen based E-ticket. It's always going to be better when an attraction physically moves and takes you somewhere rather than simulates you going somewhere. I think if Disney announces the remake of Hollywood Studios with Star Wars land it will definitely lessen the sting of Avatar and people will be more akin to give it a chance.

I would disagree with this, to me screens don't automatically make a ride bad. There are certain things that can only be achieved with screens. High speed movement though a very detailed environment is hard to achieve without screens. I do agree that if the Avatar ride is just a Soarin clone it will be a disappointment, but if it's 3D and has more vehicle movement the Soarin, I think it will be a win.

 

[lobelia]

What would they serve at a restaurant in Pandora? Are they planning on a table service restaurant? How do you design this restaurant ? I can imagine a futuristic theme. I could also see something rustic with vegetation.

 

[lobelia]

Some people won't be happy unless the ride actually transports them to the planet of Pandora.

That's what I was thinking. Aside from the few that hate the idea so much they won't step foot in that area.

I'm ok with a great 3D ride that has a great view, no shoes in front of my view please. Video screens are fine combined with great environmental effects. I like to hear how others would design this area. I hope those floating mountains effects work.

 

[SirLink]

Some people won't be happy unless the ride actually transports them to the planet of Pandora.

I would disagree with this, to me screens don't automatically make a ride bad. There are certain things that can only be achieved with screens. High speed movement though a very detailed environment is hard to achieve without screens. I do agree that if the Avatar ride is just a Soarin clone it will be a disappointment, but if it's 3D and has more vehicle movement the Soarin, I think it will be a win.

I personally don't I actually think it shows a lack of creative endeavors by either James C. or Joe R.

 

[space42]

Just curious.....there seems to be some cynicism that TDO on this forum that the project won't knock our socks off. So my question for you all is...What will this attraction need be to make us happy?

A real, genuine, classic-Disney E-Ticket that the entire family can ride. Soarin' over Pandora in 3D isn't it.

 

[doctornick]

A real, genuine, classic-Disney E-Ticket that the entire family can ride. Soarin' over Pandora in 3D isn't it.

I'm hoping that the boat ride is very detailed and long (say 10+ minutes). To me, the success or failure of Pandora will depend greatly on the execution of that ride.