Arendelle, Motorboats, and Monorails

Phroobar

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Zootopia belongs in DAK replacing Raffiks Planet Watch. They could turn the train into a monorail and put in a Zootopia dark ride.
 
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Rich T

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What land would it go in? It doesn't exactly hold true to the Fantasyland formula. And it's not special enough of a film that it deserves its own land (neither is Frozen, to be clear) in Disneyland.
The more I think about it, the more I see how problematic this would be. Replacing Toontown would make the most sense, but--again--if the land isn't populated by a bunch of Zootopia's citizens, it wouldn't work at all. It's an alternate history version of Earth, so a portal like Disney Irish Bruh suggests could work... But because of the problem of creating an entire populated world, I guess the only thing that could really do it justice would be a big dark ride combining practical sets and screens (or the lower budget route of using the Roger Rabbit ride as a base). So I guess we've got three choices: 1) Toontown Makeover 2) Movie/Animation-themed land 3) Portal to alternate universes in Tomorrowland.
 

TROR

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It doesn't matter if you accept it or not, its been there almost as long as you've been alive.
Yeah, I remember when it was brand new. Doesn't change the fact it has no place in Critter Country. DCA has been around for almost as long as I've been alive, too, but that doesn't mean the original iteration somehow was good and acceptable.
 

Curious Constance

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Zootopia may have preformed well when it came out, but like most movies, it seems to have faded into relative obscurity at this point.

I don't think they sold hardly any merchandise from that film, so I would bet we won't be seeing any lands or rides based on it anytime soon.
 
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Rich T

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Zootopia may have preformed well when it came out, but like most movies, it seems to have faded into relative obscurity at this point.

I don't think they sold hardly any merchandise from that film, so I can bet we won't be seeing any lands or rides based on it anytime soon.
A sequel is being discussed, but--again--this is Disney's ball to drop. If they don't want to continue building upon Zootopia's rich, colorful world just because its not as quick n' easy to merchandise as Elsa, then that's sad. But, of course, what *isn't* sad about Disney these day???

And, as a huge fan of the movie, I gotta say... When Zootopia came out, the merchandise selection was LAME. There was nothing beyond the art book and soundtrack that I wanted to buy.
 

Phroobar

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How could you say no to this

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Don't go too deep into Zootopia on the net. There is some weird Zootopia-p 0rn out there.
 

Rich T

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Don't go too deep into Zootopia on the net. There is some weird Zootopia-p 0rn out there.
Words of wisdom. Like, eeeewwww. And then there are people who go to the other extreme and claim that anyone who thinks Zootopia (and anthropomorphic animals in general) are fun must be in that fringe group. Because I guess they think Mickey Mouse doesn't count as an anthropomorphic animal.

Geez, I should change my icon if I'm going to post anything more about Zootopia...
(EDIT) Wait, no, my icon character is actually a werewolf. I'm good.
 

Professortango1

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Isn't that why I said add a "Portal" so you are transported into the world of Zootopia...

Plus since Winnie the Pooh is there, it basically broke the deep south mold anyways.

Most people don't view Pooh as a British property. They just think cartoon animals in the woods, which works next to Splash. Zootopia would be a bit different as both Splash and Pooh are meant to exist in our world, Zootopia is a fictional world and very advanced.
 

Professortango1

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I beg to differ, sir. Zootopia is one of the best mainstream animated films I've ever seen. Fun story with a sweet message (that's handled really well without typical vilifying), great characters, and awesome world-building for any further adventures. Amazingly solid for Disney Animation's first go at a cop movie!

The message is problematic, basically saying racism made sense once upon a time because a certain group of people (or animals) were naturally designed to attack the others. The movie isn't terrible, but its got some real issues. Reminds me of a Dreamworks movie more than a Disney movie.
 

Rich T

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The message is problematic, basically saying racism made sense once upon a time because a certain group of people (or animals) were naturally designed to attack the others. The movie isn't terrible, but its got some real issues. Reminds me of a Dreamworks movie more than a Disney movie.
I get what you're saying, but the thing is: Zootopia is not about our world. It's a what-if fantasy and should be approached that way because, as sci-fi or fantasy, it's really intriguing. WHAT IF intelligent life arose from dozens and dozens of species--predators and prey-- and now they're all trying very hard to share a world, and they all have their animal instincts and abilities intact? What unique social issues would they have to deal with if they were trying to live together?

The script makes sure to blend the species around as much as possible, making sure the police force is comprised of both predators and prey (so officers become victims of unfair judgement as much as regular citizens) and making the major "black" character (Chief Bogo) a prey animal so that there's no simple this=this analogy to our world. Taken this way, it's an incredibly fun premise.

It's the message at the end that counts: All animals are equal. They all come from different backgrounds and have different built-in skills, but they've created a haven called Zootopia where you are what you decide to do and everyone should have an equal chance. It's a goal to work toward.

It's not about humans. We don't have Zootopia's unique species-specific problems. It's a fantasy.

Now given all I just said....Truthfully, I'm still uneasy about the DMV scene, funny as it is. Why does the DMV employ only sloths? And how would I feel about this scene if I worked for the real-world DMV? For me, it's the one scene in the film that really goes against what the rest of the film is trying to say.
 

Rich T

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No sympathy for the DMV. Terribly run and full of corruption. Deserves to criticized, scorned, and mocked!
Given the liars, scammers and morons-who-should-NEVER-be-allowed-to-drive they have to face every day (along with the majority of honest people just trying to renew), I do have sympathy for DMV workers. Especially the guy who kindly told me after I failed my eye test: "Just a hint for next time: There are no B's on the chart. Ever. Don't keep saying 'B' next time."
 

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