Are we currently in the New Disney renaissance era?

[Sped2424]

It seems more so that disney animation is returning to its roots, the studio finally managed to produced a huge hit with tangled and had good success with wreck it ralph and princess and the frog didn't do bad at all either and with frozen in the near future it looks as if the company is back on track. So that being said do you guys think we are in a new renaissance era? Or do you think the success ends here?

 

[Sped2424]

I think that we ARE in the midst of a new Disney Renaissance, despite what certain naysayers want us to think.

I think if the trend continues with disney animation and frozen proves to be a critical and commercial hit then its safe to say we are!

 

[Sped2424]

Exactly! We're also in a new renaissance at the parks as well! Anyone who thinks otherwise is downright dim-witted!

You know I don't think you're wrong, things whether people like what is happening or not do seem to be expanding and changing in the parks. We shall see how much so when d23 comes round the corner! Good time to be a disney fan huh?

 

[ParentsOf4]

Sorry I'm old fashioned.

Disney's renaissance was Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Lion King, etc.

Tangled, Wreck-It Ralph, Princess and the Frog, etc. are entertaining movies but hardly constitute a renaissance.

 

[Sped2424]

Sorry I'm old fashioned.

Disney's renaissance was Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, etc.

Tangled, Wreck-It Ralph, Princess and the Frog, etc. are entertaining movies but hardly constitute a renaissance.

I mean its not the same start granted but the films now are doing much what those films did back then and that was turn a profit and put walt disney animation back on the map again. Its not about personal preference its what these films are doing and how they are creating revenue and becoming new staples in the disney line up. Most little kids will reference PATF and Tangled in the same adoration as we do little mermaid and beauty and the beast!

 

[lazyboy97o]

When Disney animated features again become an event, then I would say there has been another renaissance.

Hard to say there is any evidence of such a flourishing of creativity within Parks and Resorts. Even big projects are pushed by factors other than story and experience.

 

[ParentsOf4]

(buzzer sound) WRONG! They DO constitute a renaissance! Sounds like you're being TOO old-fashioned for your own good!

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[Nemo14]

Welcome to WDWMagic.com. I hope you are enjoying your only day on these threads.

fixed that for you!

 

[Sped2424]

Guys just a light hearted subject no need for bashing in any direction!

 

[mousehockey37]

For a park renaissance, they need to do their refurbs of the rides and do them well. Not just a month or so here or there to make it NextGen compliant.

As for the film side, they need to have something big. Frozen is coming, but it's just the next in line. Dare I say it, but the mouse started it all the first time, maybe it's time to put the mouse back to work and make another blockbuster.

 

[Sped2424]

When Disney animated features again become an event, then I would say there has been another renaissance.

Hard to say there is any evidence of such a flourishing of creativity within Parks and Resorts. Even big projects are pushed by factors other than story and experience.

I feel they are coming to that point don't you though? I have seen a huge fanbase pop out for animation as of late with wreck it ralph and tangled! As for the parks aspect I say we can more confirm that around d23

 

[Sped2424]

Just remember, it all started with a mouse.

Is this the renaissance that management wants? Where they phase out Walt?

I think they want to do a new mickey mouse title soon! I hear the stooge is getting talked about more and more lately! And the new mickey shorts seem to be harkening back to the old style of mickey mouse they are even doing his voice much like how it sounded in his earlier appearances!

 

[lazyboy97o]

I feel they are coming to that point don't you though? I have seen a huge fanbase pop out for animation as of late with wreck it ralph and tangled! As for the parks aspect I say we can more confirm that around d23

No, I am not seeing it. Disney has always had fans, but that doesn't make a release a big tentpole event for many people just because it is a Disney animated feature.

D23 won't prove squat unless what they announce is completely out of left field.

 

[Sped2424]

No, I am not seeing it. Disney has always had fans, but that doesn't make a release a big tentpole event for many people just because it is a Disney animated feature.

D23 won't prove squat unless what they announce is completely out of left field.

Adding two new lands to a theme park which has been long in need of an update is not enough? Or concept art about avatar land for animal kingdom? I know you aren't the most optimistic person when it comes to this company and its decisions but come on you at least have to admit things seem to be a bit better?

 

[englanddg]

I think they want to do a new mickey mouse title soon! I hear the stooge is getting talked about more and more lately! And the new mickey shorts seem to be harkening back to the old style of mickey mouse they are even doing his voice much like how it sounded in his earlier appearances!

I notice the yeti works for Mickey. (Sorry, I had to)

 

[lazyboy97o]

Adding two new lands to a theme park which has been long in need of an update is not enough? Or concept art about avatar land for animal kingdom? I know you aren't the most optimistic person when it comes to this company and its decisions but come on you at least have to admit things seem to be a bit better?

Just doing something after sitting around is not at all close to being a renaissance.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Until I see what's up with any potential expansion plans at D23, and whether they're going to continue to refurb the crap out of rides like Splash Mountain (which someone from another thread said is ALREADY beginning to start to deteriorate again), we're far from any sort of new renaissance. A minor improvement over the botched mess that was the first decade of 2000 doesn't constitute a renaissance. The foreign resorts at least seem to be getting decent treatment by the company, Mystic Manor looks fantastic. Hope we get more rides on that caliber or better in the US parks.

I enjoyed Wreck it Ralph a good deal, and to a lesser extent I also enjoyed PATF. Tangled not quite as much, some decent parts but I found it kind of weak in too many ways. It's a shame some of the other movies didn't do better than Tangled sales wise, I enjoyed them much better. None of which however are anywhere close to the brilliance of their late 80's and 90's renaissance regardless. And I've even been disappointed in the last 2 Pixar movies (not seen Monsters U yet), hoping they can pull out of that rut they've gotten themselves in. The suits in the company once again essentially killing off 2D animation doesn't fill me with any hope either.

BTW- *Sniff sniff*...Smells like CountryBearFan in here...

 

[Sped2424]

Until I see what's up with any potential expansion plans at D23, and whether they're going to continue to refurb the crap out of rides like Splash Mountain (which someone from another thread said is ALREADY beginning to start to deteriorate again), we're far from any sort of new renaissance. A minor improvement over the botched mess that was the first decade of 2000 doesn't constitute a renaissance. The foreign resorts at least seem to be getting decent treatment by the company, Mystic Manor looks fantastic. Hope we get more rides on that caliber or better in the US parks.

I enjoyed Wreck it Ralph a good deal, and to a lesser extent I also enjoyed PATF. Tangled not quite as much, some decent parts but I found it kind of weak in too many ways. It's a shame some of the other movies didn't do better than Tangled sales wise, I enjoyed them much better. None of which however are anywhere close to the brilliance of their late 80's and 90's renaissance regardless. And I've even been disappointed in the last 2 Pixar movies (not seen Monsters U yet), hoping they can pull out of that rut they've gotten themselves in. The suits in the company once again essentially killing off 2D animation doesn't fill me with any hope either.

BTW- *Sniff sniff*...Smells like CountryBearFan in here...

What does that last part mean? And for some extent they want to evolve the 2d animation shorts like paperman were both beautiful and great and it mixed the best parts of 2d and 3d I heard in recent interviews the director of the short wants to take that idea and apply it to a film so 3d might not be completely dead! As for the films I myself loved PATF more than tangled as well but I thought tangled was a great film in its own. Plus when you have glene keane in the mix you know the film is going to be beautiful and it was I think the lantern scene is going to be as iconic as belle dancing with the beast and ariel singing as soon as that wave hits her rock! The renaissance really is just for the film aspect that I was talking about however like you said if they continue the trend that we are starting to see in upkeep and other areas of the park then I would consider it being a new renaissance era for the parks as well. But like you said lets wait till d23 to make any decisions!

 

[mousehockey37]

Just doing something after sitting around is not at all close to being a renaissance.

It takes ingenuity, creativity and innovation to create something powerful. This is how Walt started this whole thing. For the current US parks to have a renaissance, those imagineers along with the head honchos are going to have to literally go back to the drawing board.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

In short, no. Not even close in the animation department. The last "renaissance" (and I hate that overused term) was a big deal because there was no real competition for the company and Disney had finally figured out how to once again make an animated mega-blockbuster that could appeal to both audiences and critics. No DACs since have reached that level of achievement (even if on their own terms they were successful), and likely never will. The animation world is not the same place it once was.