lazyboy97o
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So true. I don't care if we see dozens of Cars Lands. So long as The Walt Disney Company is striving for themed entertainment to be a marketing medium, and not a creative medium, there can be no renaissance.
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Are we currently in the New Disney renaissance era?
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acishere
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I agree with the sentiment that the 90s were more of an animated renaissance for Disney that what I'm seeing right now. Wreck It Ralph was a great film, Winnie the Pooh was short and sweet, and Tangled was better than the previews made it look. I really don't remember what I thought of PATF so I won't comment on that.
They are having a hot streak of good films is more what I would call it right now. If they hit the same levels as Aladdin or The Lion King maybe I'll call it a renaissance.
They are having a hot streak of good films is more what I would call it right now. If they hit the same levels as Aladdin or The Lion King maybe I'll call it a renaissance.
I definitely see your point I just think if these first movies are any indicator and they continue this trend we could be on the verge of the next renaissance era in terms of disney animation!
bubbles1812
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Even if things are announced at D23, that doesn't constitute a "renaissance." You forget, Disney has announced things before and yet those things either don't get built or are severely modified/cut down. Yes, it's exciting to think they may announce something, but they have to be built first. And won't til near the end of the decade. And there is not even a guarantee things will be announced at D23.
I would echo what someone else said in terms of movies. I think most of their recent films are very entertaining. Tangled especially impressed me. But I wouldn't call this a renaissance era just yet. And I don't put them in the same category in my head in terms of the richness of the story or even some of the animation as the actual renaissance films.
While carsland was great and done perfectly for the DCA I agree we need something else different for the studios cloning takes away the beauty of the attraction but from a marketing standpoint it makes sense after all most of all our beloved magic kingdom attractions here are just clones of what came first in disneyland anyways some better than their original and some worse.
bubbles1812
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LOL. CountryBear is that you? If you wanted to come back on the threads you shouldn't have used your signature trademark. Loved that your first post called everyone with a slightly critical opinion dimwitted. Classic.(buzzer sound) WRONG! They DO constitute a renaissance! Sounds like you're being TOO old-fashioned for your own good!
G00fyDad
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Its not their first day on WDWMagic. Look at the name. Who names their account that unless it is their second "throw away" account used to incite people. Beniceaboutdisney!!! is obviously a second account.
lazyboy97o
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I'm not talking about clones. I'm talking about the motivations, reasons and general attitude towards themed entertainment that prevails and guides the decisions made at The Walt Disney Company.
So you mean just well done lands period aimed at the best themed and entertainment possible? Well hopefully we can see that in whatever disney has cooking up.
Zweiland
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Exactly. I mean, it's really a matter of opinion as to which movies are better, but I agree completely.
Disney is usually not the company coming out with creative, fresh films these days. That would be Pixar.
lazyboy97o
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No, I mean the attitude of theme parks not being a valid creative medium. Disney no longer asks "What would make a great theme park experience?" (Be it original or based in an intellectual property). Instead the attitude is "This made a lot of money, lets make a theme park experience." That is how we got Cars Land. That why Avatar was pursued. It's why more Star Wars is being considered. Its about what is best for other mediums, namely film and merchandise, not what is best for themed entertainment.
mousehockey37
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Bingo.
I have a feeling this goes a long way for the status of Future World in EPCOT. When Future World opened, there was a concept of what the "future" would look like. Now that we are in that future, they need to go and reimagine what the future is going to look like. Many people don't like what the refurbed Test Track looks like, but it's got a futuristic side to it.
George1995
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On the animation side, my opinion is that we aren't quite in a "renaissance" period yet, but I think it's on the way. I mean PATF, Tangled, and Wreck it Ralph are no Aladdin or The Lion King and I think most people know that. But those films (the recent ones) were all very successful and I think are an indication of future success to come.
On the parks side, I completely agree with what has been said. Until Disney starts focusing on customer satisfaction again instead of what can make them the most money then there can't possibly be a "renaissance" because they (the imagineers) won't be trying to think of the best possible rides, just the most franchisable ones. I don't think that's a real word lol.
On the parks side, I completely agree with what has been said. Until Disney starts focusing on customer satisfaction again instead of what can make them the most money then there can't possibly be a "renaissance" because they (the imagineers) won't be trying to think of the best possible rides, just the most franchisable ones. I don't think that's a real word lol.
FettFan
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(buzzer sound) WRONG! They DO constitute a renaissance! Sounds like you're being TOO old-fashioned for your own good!
Classy how you live up to your username. The angry face really does wonders for the effect.
And yes, I agree with ParentsOf4. Disney Feature Animation needs to get back to its roots with hand-drawn animation with CGI blended in for effect.
Leave full-length CGI to Pixar.
mousehockey37
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Classy how you live up to your username. The angry face really does wonders for the effect.
And yes, I agree with ParentsOf4. Disney Feature Animation needs to get back to its roots with hand-drawn animation with CGI blended in for effect.
Leave full-length CGI to Pixar.
Back to the roots... There's one character that is making his presence known but hasn't fully come to the show yet.... Oswald.
If Disney went and did something big with Oswald, it could change everything. It started with a mouse, let the resurgence begin with the rabbit.
englanddg
One Little Spark...
Worked last time. Remember Roger? That was released in 1988. The next year, another movie was released by Disney was...Little Mermaid. We all know where it went from there... (Grin)
stevehousse
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I like all the movies the OP stated, but I don't think they are in a renessaince category at all! I think that those past few films have really been trying to obtain that status, an Disney has been pushing themselves to get to that level again. They were good tries, don't get me wrong. I just hope they continue the trend.
For me, I remembered leaving the theatres of those old movies singing songs and talking about them non stop! They were so epic! I think tangled was the closet to being that, by it had it flaws. Still a great film non the less...
For me, I remembered leaving the theatres of those old movies singing songs and talking about them non stop! They were so epic! I think tangled was the closet to being that, by it had it flaws. Still a great film non the less...
MickeyPeace
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Killing off hand drawn animation, the cornerstone of the Disney brand and bringing in cloned attractions, third party properties to WDW does not make a renaissance.
To say they are in a renaissance is overstepping, I have enjoyed the recent slate of films - Wreck It Ralph, Brave, Cars2, Monsters University - but they are in no way as timeless as the period that created Lion King, Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast. I may have rose colored glasses on but as someone else said, Disney used to be event films and they aren't.
And for the record, I saw Monsters University and Despicable Me 2 last week, and DM2 was a much better movie - which as a lifelong Disney fan who counts Monsters Inc as one of his favorites was a little disappointing to ruin that legacy.
HOW HARD CAN IT BE TO MAKE THE INCREDIBLES 2?
And for the record, I saw Monsters University and Despicable Me 2 last week, and DM2 was a much better movie - which as a lifelong Disney fan who counts Monsters Inc as one of his favorites was a little disappointing to ruin that legacy.
HOW HARD CAN IT BE TO MAKE THE INCREDIBLES 2?