Apple's Passbook app integration w/ Disney

flynnibus

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There are standards for NFC - what is lacking is agreeing upon the applications and how they interact.

It's like networking.. there is IP and TCP.. but they are lacking a winning concept to use universally between software/service vendors. It's like having TCP, but people can't agree on using gopher or http :)
 

luv

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So if your phone runs out of charge or breaks, you can't spend the money or use the ticket or whatever?

No, thanks.
 

M.rudolf

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No one asked but you received. Breathe deep and get over it.
I have an issue with people writing things on the net that they wouldnt say to a person in a face to face conversation. The org poster asked a legitimate question and he gets called clueless due to his personal choices. No one asked for a debate about cellphones or os's. So maybe you should breathe deep and try to be a little more courteous. Like the old saying goes if you don't have anything good to say maybe you shouldn't say anything at all
 

ScoutN

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I have an issue with people writing things on the net that they wouldnt say to a person in a face to face conversation. The org poster asked a legitimate question and he gets called clueless due to his personal choices. No one asked for a debate about cellphones or os's. So maybe you should breathe deep and try to be a little more courteous. Like the old saying goes if you don't have anything good to say maybe you shouldn't say anything at all

I have no issue saying anything to anyone's face. Don't hide behind that excuse. My state of the new broPhone is very underwhelming stands. AS a broPhone user.
 

M.rudolf

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I have no issue saying anything to anyone's face. Don't hide behind that excuse. My state of the new broPhone is very underwhelming stands. AS a broPhone user.
What are you talking about? BroPhone? I wasn't hiding behind anything. I also wasn't being obnoxious. The thread was started to ask about a feature in Passbook not whether or not the iPhone 5 was disappointing. That's not a reason to call anyone clueless. If your not satisfied with the iPhone don't buy a new one. Evidentially a lot of people are happy with they sold out within an hour.
My issue isn't what anyone thinks of the iPhone the issue was that condor man called people clueless due to using apple tech nothing more.
Also how was I hiding or making excuses like not in one of my did I challenge your views of the iPhone, I challenged the fact that someone immediately started name calling. Again what's a bro phone? If its short for brothers phone that really shows your ignorance and where you stand in more ways than one
 

bhg469

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I would like to throw another \
Just because you don't like apple products you don't have to call people clueless. I'll take iOS over androids fragmented operating system any day. Apple didn't add NFC because there isn't a true standard yet. Even Verizon disabled it on all their phones. I'll take a phone where I know I'll get an update and I can take into a store for warranty issues,rather than sending into a manufacturer any day. I find it funny just because apple makes items user friendly doesn't make the user clueless.

This is coming from someone who has been in the apple ecosystem and loved using an iphone for a while. As a fan of technology I can tell you that the apple product line is slow when it comes to introducing technology that will benefit their users. They love adding buzz around their products when there is no buzz about them. IE "lightning" is just a usb 2.0 port with 2 sides. There is nothing lightning about it.

Well you're a little off.. NFC is just a short range RFID. Using it as a payment method only requires a pay pass reader that is already part of many Point of sale machines. It works flawlessly and I use it all the time. Fragmentation is a non issue at this point. All standard apps work with most phones. The ones that don't work are phones that have been out 4 years and are at their end of life anyway. Funny thing though, this fancy turn by turn nav that is available on every single android phone is only going to be available on iphone 4s and 5, THAT is bad fragmentation.

A monkey wrench in passbook however. There are a lot of cracked screens out there, not just iphones. Rather than replace a phone which can be costly many people still use phones with bad screens. This may not cause an issue for day to day but I 100% guarantee a cracked screen will NOT display a bar code correctly. That is speaking from experience. I am a tech with a ticketing company and I make my living making sure people have access to events with tickets. Ticketing on a phone is something we use and at this point it is really not a good method. Sure customers like to show off that they can use their phone to access an event but it still requires a paper receipt to print out for seat location, and when someone has multiple seats, even more slow.

I have a Touch on preorder (hope it's shipped early October since my trip is coming up) Since my employer supplies me with a cell, I'm hoping to be able to use the Touch in a wallet to eventually use the PassBook potential more and more as merchants become more involved with it.

However, I don't remember a scene in Horizons where someone paid for something using their "smart device". I guess if Apple can dream it, they really can do it.

Touch may not use these pay features sir, without a data connection your device will have no way to check back for funds available to you. Without data you could scan that barcode over and over and it would keep letting you do it even if you had a $25 gift card.
 

bhg469

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I wanted to also add that NFC is more than just a payment option. NFC tags can be used to launch websites, dial a number, put your phone into silent mode all sorts of features. For example on my night stand I have an NFC tag that I put my phone on and it switches my phone into night mode, triggers a big clock screen and lowers the screen brightness. When I move it in the morning It reverses everything that night mode triggered and then launches the websites that I read every morning.
 

ScoutN

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What are you talking about? BroPhone? I wasn't hiding behind anything. I also wasn't being obnoxious. The thread was started to ask about a feature in Passbook not whether or not the iPhone 5 was disappointing. That's not a reason to call anyone clueless. If your not satisfied with the iPhone don't buy a new one. Evidentially a lot of people are happy with they sold out within an hour.

Guess I hit a soft spot with you. broPhone 5 is disappointing. Just means there is THAT many people who have NO idea what is inside of the shiny little wrapper it is in. Passbook --> broPhone 5 --> More than likely won't be supported due to lack of features. ONCE AGAIN. The plussed version next year will be the one to buy.


My issue isn't what anyone thinks of the iPhone the issue was that condor man called people clueless due to using apple tech nothing more.
Also how was I hiding or making excuses like not in one of my did I challenge your views of the iPhone, I challenged the fact that someone immediately started name calling. Again what's a bro phone? If its short for brothers phone that really shows your ignorance and where you stand in more ways than one

I will agree with Condorman, most who buy crApple have know idea what they are actually buying. It is the trendy thing to do (or so they think) to get anything everything new crApple; so they do it. I cannot tell if that last sentence is serious. IF IT IS then allow me to stop laughing at how much you are reading into a anti-fanboi crApple name.

~The Scout- Owner of more crApple products than most.[/quote][/quote]
 

bhg469

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Honestly I am of the opinion that indeed a majority of iPhone owners have it because it is trendy. And that is not an insult, for every knowledgeable tech savvy person that has one there are probably 10 people that just like having it as a status symbol. I disagree with insulting people about it though.

The real debate here is passbook which I feel is very inferior to using an NFC solution. A scanable barcode on a breakable screen is a very poor way to go about things. Once apple adopts NFC, passbook will be a sensible solution. And mark my words they will use NFC and call it something appleish and claim it is their own. Besides NFC is useful for much more than mobile payments as it is essentially RFID.
 

wdwmagic

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Honestly I am of the opinion that indeed a majority of iPhone owners have it because it is trendy. And that is not an insult, for every knowledgeable tech savvy person that has one there are probably 10 people that just like having it as a status symbol. I disagree with insulting people about it though.

The real debate here is passbook which I feel is very inferior to using an NFC solution. A scanable barcode on a breakable screen is a very poor way to go about things. Once apple adopts NFC, passbook will be a sensible solution. And mark my words they will use NFC and call it something appleish and claim it is their own. Besides NFC is useful for much more than mobile payments as it is essentially RFID.
The reality is that it will take Apple to make NFC mainstream. Apple are about the only people these days that really change things, and make it work for the masses.
 

ScoutN

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Can you manage 1 reply where you speak like an adult? Crapple? Brophone? You sound like a high schooler at best.

I will call anything that is successful by hype as its main drive something like that. High school kids wouldn't call it that. They are all about having one for the trend factor. Wait till a Microsoft discussion pops up. I discriminate technology evenly as a user of all/most companies.

Honestly I am of the opinion that indeed a majority of iPhone owners have it because it is trendy. And that is not an insult, for every knowledgeable tech savvy person that has one there are probably 10 people that just like having it as a status symbol. I disagree with insulting people about it though.

The real debate here is passbook which I feel is very inferior to using an NFC solution. A scanable barcode on a breakable screen is a very poor way to go about things. Once apple adopts NFC, passbook will be a sensible solution. And mark my words they will use NFC and call it something appleish and claim it is their own. Besides NFC is useful for much more than mobile payments as it is essentially RFID.

I agree. Hype hype hype and more hype. Granted it is a very smooth easy to use system, the tech is not there. I have one only because I do not need a phone with Droid capability and like the way I can hook it up to my Nav unit.

NFC will be game changer when it comes. Once everyone is forced from basic phones I see it being pushed signigicantly more. As we all know crApple is going to sell the 5 on the strict drive of hype right now and will succeed. The next version of the 5 could very easily have it. We all know you never buy the first version of a new crApple product. The cracked screens are certainly the issue now. But as someone whose broPhone has fallen 45ft off a coaster and hit the footer AND did not get a cracked screen I haven't had that issue. Now that I said that once it falls from the coffe table to hardwood floors it will crack.
 

ScoutN

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The reality is that it will take Apple to make NFC mainstream. Apple are about the only people these days that really change things, and make it work for the masses.

You are right and that is sad. crApple's hardware is inferior to others but their marketing on changes and doing off the wall items are their blood. Who knows, crApple might have a patent on the NFC tech or find a way to claim they do... that IS their style.
 

wdwmagic

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You are right and that is sad. crApple's hardware is inferior to others but their marketing on changes and doing off the wall items are their blood. Who knows, crApple might have a patent on the NFC tech or find a way to claim they do... that IS their style.
This is somewhat outside of the scope of this thread, but how do you get to the hardware being inferior? In the lat few years they have produced the best there is for smartphones and laptops. EVERYONE has copied their designs, in the phone and laptop segment.

I know a lot of people hate Apple, but when looking at the bare facts, it cannot be said that their products are not beautifully designed and engineered. The build quality is higher than anything I have seen in 15 years of being an IT professional. With the iPhone 5, every element of it is top of the line. How is their hardware inferior?
 

phi2134

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My favorite thing about the anti-apple people are that they are their own niche just because they hate apple. It's like the rebelling high school anti-jock who becomes an emo or punk rocker and they rebel against the jocks. When in fact the vast amount of emo's and punk rockers make their own laughable stereo type and niche.

Guess what, if you don't like Apple, dont buy it. I dont like Android and I will never buy one. But I am not going to bash other people because of their choice. Apple changed the phone industry and they have received a lot of fan admiration, which they deserve. Kind of like how Apple used to be against Windows, Apple was the outlaw and the uncool thing. Congrats that you have NFC, congrats that you have a massive 7 inch screen on your phone. I have a phone that I am happy with and I don't need every single gadget in the world to make me happy. Apple has won me over because of their product, not because its the anti-something. The new iphone was supposed to revolutionary, its an improved iphone. You can thank the media for cramming the speculation about the next game changing phone from apple only because apple has arguably been the biggest game changer for the new generation cell phones.
 

bhg469

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The reality is that it will take Apple to make NFC mainstream. Apple are about the only people these days that really change things, and make it work for the masses.

Unfortunately they will make it work for the masses of iPhone users. I can say that I will not buy another iPhone but I do know that my phone has NFC and apple will not allow me to use their product. I would rather have a company come up with a cross platform application but most likely Apple won't let it happen if they can't profit from it.
 

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