Apple or PC

[Al]

Someone mentioned switching from PC to mac, take a look at this, might be useful: www.apple.com/switch

 

[Lil'mermaid]

I HATE Macs. I use them at school and man, they are USELESS. When they dont work, which is often, we always threaten to throw them out the window. My one teacher calls them "overpriced paperweights".

I had one eat an entire termpaper about a week before it was due, but then again, that might just have been my fault.

I love my Dell!

 

[barnum42]

I HATE Macs. I use them at school and man, they are USELESS. When they dont work, which is often, we always threaten to throw them out the window. My one teacher calls them "overpriced paperweights".

I had one eat an entire termpaper about a week before it was due, but then again, that might just have been my fault.

I love my Dell!

All this support despite last night's woes with eighty gigs of Maxtor :lol:

 

[Lil'mermaid]

All this support despite last night's woes with eighty gigs of Maxtor :lol:

See the thing is... it wasnt my computer I was mad at. I have a Dell lap top that I do most of my work on. I just havent got the internet on it. (my mom "For a reason") My mothers (the one with the net on it) is a desktop, and we love it, though right now... I still want to kick it.

 

[AliciaLuvzDizne]

You may as well Nick. I mean, you're already in one of the 2 biggest cults in the US (VW Drivers)... a Mac was bound to happen.

Just remeber, you shall never truly earn true geek status till I see a linux box in your possession

oh dear...
im in love with a TRUE geek!!??

joel has a powebook, a pc he just built himself, and a :lookaroun linux machine



ooooh brother!:brick: now all i need is one of those t shirts from hot topic "i love nerds"

hehe!!

 

[barnum42]

I have a Dell lap top that I do most of my work on.

You can't have a Dell laptop as they stoped making them years ago. Or rather they renamed them after they started getting so hot that people were burning their legs when resting the machine on them. They call them "Notebooks" now :lol:

From a support point of view I HATE laptops.

 

[NemoRocks78]

I'm not a fan of HP computer kit, so I'm not too surprised you had problems. I can't vouch for the US market, but if it's like the UK market buying from a chain store will cost you a lot more than buying direct.

Whilst they are far from saints, over here I usually recomend buying direct from Dell or Evesham to freinds who were going to go into Dixons group stores or a Time outlet. I have tried some of the cheaper brands, but had nothing but trouble from them. Anyone from the UK reading this AVOID OMNI DATA SYSTEMS - bunch of heffing dishonest crooks, they sold me a pile of junk and I had to fight for two months to get my money back. So the other lesson I learnt is make sure you pay with a credit card that can arrange charge back if the company arses you around.

Any machine you finally settle on, be it a big brand PC, local built PC or Apple will have a fair chance of falling over and being a pain to repair.

I agree. It seems that the companies whose main focus is only on the PC are the most reliable. I have a Dell, and it was great, but I stopped using it because it was a bit too slow. Gateway also seems to do well.

Someone mentioned switching from PC to mac, take a look at this, might be useful: www.apple.com/switch

Al....thank you! That just answered all of my main questions.


Well, it's looking like I'm going to make the switch. However....I'm not sure on which one to get. Would it be better to wait for the new iMac coming out in September, or should I go for the Power Mac G5?

 

[barnum42]

Someone mentioned switching from PC to mac, take a look at this, might be useful: www.apple.com/switch

:lol: There is no way that article is going to be at all biased :lol:

 

[AliciaLuvzDizne]

this is pretty funny...i hope this link still works... http://www.silverlyning.com/videos/mac.wmv



this doesnt work does anyone know where to find it?? it was a video of a guy basically complaining about the mac...its pretty funny but my old link doesnt work

sorry

 

[jojoyner55]

I cannot believe all the anti-Mac posts here. Please re-read my original one in this thread: folks, I have over twenty years of personnal experience with Apple computers: I have had exactly one hardware failure in all that time (a power converter). I have never had to call tech support. I can only surmise that all of you railling against Apple quality are suffering under IT techs who don't care and don't support the machines they've got. And those of you who cite "statistics" that Macs are more fallible than PC's must be on heavy drugs - every poll I have seen in those over 20 years of computer use clearly show Apples are better built. Sorry for chiming in, but to read folks who have been using computers (and guided by Gates and company) for a few years rant against something I have more experience with than most of you have been alive...Sorry gang; pet peeve. But the above statements about the Apple products I've owned are simply true: They don't break. They are easier to use. Windows is a poor copy of the Macintosh OS. Apple will release the fourth major upgrade to OS X next year, when Microsoft will not (by their estimate) have an update to Windows fully in place before 2008 at the earliest. But to get back to this forums real purpose: I can't wait to get myself (and my PowerBook - for picture downloads) back to WDW next month!

 

[Erika]

I haven't used an Apple since the mid-80s in elementary school, so I can't really say anything for or against Macs. Everything I have owned has been a PC. We have a Dell right now and we really like it.

I've never had to call for support on anything, either. Of course I'm not going back 20 years; only 12.

Now stop railing against the anti-Mac posts unless you want to stop talking against PCs. Neither one is perfect and for some reason people REALLY like to take sides on this issue!

 

[jojoyner55]

Erica -
As a person I really respect (and always read your posts) please forgive my rant. But in this case you misunderstand. I was simply trying to defend the fact that the PC crowd gets vehemently anti-Mac, and their claims of Apple unreliability are simply unsupported: One problem with this forum is that there are very few of us over 50 crowd. Forgive me, but, everyone in their twenties "knows" everything and is infallible. I had the same problem at that age. As Mark Twain so beautifully put it: At 18 I was appalled at my fathers ignorence. When I got to be 28 I was surprised to see how much he had learned". I will now be attacked for this comment - but all you teens and 20 somethings out there - can't you accept that experierence might count for at least something? My Mac post was denegrated by people half my age with less than half my experience of computers - or life. I retired from the Navy after spending 20 years protecting your rights to an opinion (How many of you teens (or so called adults) are going to serve your country?) or even care?

 

[NowInc]

From what ive seen over the course of my life, its the mac users who tend to get the most defensive regarding their computers of choice.

As i said above, i gave a fair comparison between the 2.

Also..dont state opinions that you boast as facts. The next version of windows is already in HEAVY beta testing and should be out by the end of next year. Don't be put back by the fact that there are verious different versions of windows out there (for different types of users) and pass it off as no progress. Windows server 2003 came out just last year, and is actually taking over as the webserver of choice for a lot of bigger hosting companies.

Windows is actually a copy of the same OS apple copies...which was written by xerox. In fact, windows was on store sheves before macs got theirs out the door. Granted apple tried to steal it first, but that doesnt make them the originators.

To also claim that "apples are better" as a fact, instead of opinion, is kinda hypocritical. The industry in which i am employed used to soley rely on macs for the majority of our work, and over the years, EVERY client and company i ever work for has moved everything over to PCs. If macs are "better" as a fact..why does this happen?

Macs do have their perks and upsides. They DO last forever, and they do have far better hardware compatibility than that of PCs. And i guess they come in pretty colors...if yer into that sorta thing.

As for my "experience", yes..im in my mid 20s, but have worked since i was 12 using computers...heavily. Worked for about 8 years as lead tech support, i have a masters degree in computer digital media design/animation (in which ALL platforms are used), I have written over 3 dozen computer programs for both mac AND pc, know over 5 programming languages, build computers not only for myself but the majority of my friends.

YEARS of experience, you may have that, but as far as my overall knowledge of the systems itself, im pretty much up the ladder.

I dont think anyone here ever attacked anyone else's opinion, just expressed their own. Im glad you spent many years in the military defending said right, and I hope you dont take my post the wrong way

 

[speck76]

Anyway, go for it. Consumer Reports has stated that Apple has had the best relyability and the best consumer help.

Yet they still manage to never have a large share of the market.....hmmmmm :lookaroun

 

[AliciaLuvzDizne]

I haven't used an Apple since the mid-80s in elementary school, so I can't really say anything for or against Macs. Everything I have owned has been a PC. We have a Dell right now and we really like it.

I've never had to call for support on anything, either. Of course I'm not going back 20 years; only 12.

Now stop railing against the anti-Mac posts unless you want to stop talking against PCs. Neither one is perfect and for some reason people REALLY like to take sides on this issue!

yeahhh!!! remember logowriter??? ( i think thats what it was called...where you could draw with the little turtle!!) and of course oregon trail

 

[Woody13]

Windows is actually a copy of the same OS apple copies...which was written by xerox. In fact, windows was on store sheves before macs got theirs out the door. Granted apple tried to steal it first, but that doesnt make them the originators.

Both Bill Gates and Steve Jobs visited the Xerox research center, Palo Alto (PARC) at about the same time. They both saw GUI (Graphic User Interface) and the "mouse". Both Gates and Jobs attempted to steal this system.

The bottom line is that when Jobs went back to PARC to "steal" the system, he found that Gates had already burglarized the place and stole the entire system! There is no honor among thieves!

 

[barnum42]

Erica -
I was simply trying to defend the fact that the PC crowd gets vehemently anti-Mac.

Of the "PC crowd" I know most just get some lighthearted evil from from slamming Macs to watch the Mac user's reaction . It's nothing personal. It's just that PC owners have the same affection for their machines as your average person does for a spanner. It's a tool and nothing more. Admittedly a spanner is less likely to give you problems. Mac users are far more passionate about their machines - and you may be able to use that as pro-thing for Macs.

PCs & Macs are both spanners to me :wave:

 

[jojoyner55]

To all: Forgive me if I got defensive or offensive in any way. I should have realized that this subject (like religion and politics) is not one that invites rational discourse.

 

[barnum42]

To all: Forgive me if I got defensive or offensive in any way. I should have realized that this subject (like religion and politics) is not one that invites rational discourse.

Over here you can add football (soccer) to that list. It has replaced religion for many people in their everyday lives.

 

[Al]

Well, it's looking like I'm going to make the switch. However....I'm not sure on which one to get. Would it be better to wait for the new iMac coming out in September, or should I go for the Power Mac G5?

I'd go for the Power Mac G5, I doubt the new iMac will be able to beat it (the top end model anyway). Could be wrong though, good luck with choosing