Appalling state of the monorail cabins

[lazyboy97o]

That would require me to go to work on my days off. Surely, you don't like to go to work on your days off? I will eventually get pictures, or someone else with a level head will, just stop giving me **** all the time about it.

You just like talking about your work and tirelessly defending bad choices when you're off? You're the one who insisted that these images are anomalies because your taking the criticism of Disney personally because you are employed in the department.

 

[Rasvar]

A pilotless, fully automated system makes far more sense to me.

You could do things like empty a train and then just send the train back to the shop for fixes or cleaning and all other operations could continue as normal. No need to stop all of the trains because you're operating a switch, just change the switch as the train approaches and then flip it back when done. Adding trains ought to be just as easy.

Even with that, I still think that they need more trains / more bays because there's a time constraint (and labor) on what they're currently working with.

No way to really switch without a delay. They would have to rebuild the entire switchbeam to be a different style or updated engineering from the current beam replacement. It's not really designed to be a quick change like some of the newer monorail systems with automatic switch beams for different routes. The speed of the current switch is not all that fast.

 

[Figment2005]

You just like talking about your work and tirelessly defending bad choices when you're off? You're the one who insisted that these images are anomalies because your taking the criticism of Disney personally because you are employed in the department.

How am I tirelessly defending bad choices? The only thing I defend is that Disney is making the RIGHT choice by replacing the carpeting in the cabins. You and many other poster down right refuse to acknowledge the right choices because of the bad choices made in the past. By constantly badgering me and belittling me because my perspective and opinion differs from yours, you accomplish nothing but increasing my lack of respect for you.

 

[dstrawn9889]

No way to really switch without a delay. They would have to rebuild the entire switchbeam to be a different style or updated engineering from the current beam replacement. It's not really designed to be a quick change like some of the newer monorail systems with automatic switch beams for different routes. The speed of the current switch is not all that fast.

i have seen that beam in action, and it is not slow, but it requires all motion stop on all three beams --- express, resort, and spur

 

[s8film40]

i have seen that beam in action, and it is not slow, but it requires all motion stop on all three beams --- express, resort, and spur

That is one upgrade that I think would be really beneficial. With the right switch beam set up there trains could be switched in/out of service or between Express and Resort seamlessly without ever stopping either line.

 

[ABQ]

That is one upgrade that I think would be really beneficial. With the right switch beam set up there trains could be switched in/out of service or between Express and Resort seamlessly without ever stopping either line.

Can't see why such a simple upgrade can't be done rather than maintaining the seemingly Rube Goldberg designed process currently in use.

 

[dstrawn9889]

that is what the switch at spur does now, one switch three beams. the LV one was a direction change to a different beam, a completely different need

WDW placing a train from spur to resort: switch moves from express to spur, train loads to express, switch moves from express to resort, train moves. switch returns to center.

 

[Figment2005]

that is what the switch at spur does now, one switch three beams. the LV one was a direction change to a different beam, a completely different need

WDW placing a train from spur to resort: switch moves from express to spur, train loads to express, switch moves from express to resort, train moves. switch returns to center.

What causes the delay now is that power has to be dropped before the switches can be moved. This is why the trains need to be at certain positions before switching.

 

[Rasvar]

i have seen that beam in action, and it is not slow, but it requires all motion stop on all three beams --- express, resort, and spur

Yeah, that is faster than I recall. Last time I saw them operate was about 15 years ago.

 

[s8film40]

What causes the delay now is that power has to be dropped before the switches can be moved. This is why the trains need to be at certain positions before switching.

Yes, this and of course since it's a pivot joint rather than a beam replacement type switch the train goes very slow over the switch.

 

[Figment2005]

Yes, this and of course since it's a pivot joint rather than a beam replacement type switch the train goes very slow over the switch.

Yep

 

[dstrawn9889]

Yes, this and of course since it's a pivot joint rather than a beam replacement type switch the train goes very slow over the switch.

ok, i can see where the sliding beam replacement could be a smoother transition, but it is still an awkward intersection, so that they would only need one switch

 

[s8film40]

Personally I think it would be smart to move the Spur to Express switch up a little bit and then replace the existing switch with a dedicated crossover beam replacement switch. This would have the added bonus of being able to switch a train in/out of service while simultaneously switching a train between Express to Resort.

 

[ItlngrlBella]

Or just rip it all out - track and all, and replace it with this:

http://cnn.it/1D8DwMX

TOT to Epcot in 10 seconds.

 

[betty rose]

Or just rip it all out - track and all, and replace it with this:

http://cnn.it/1D8DwMX

TOT to Epcot in 10 seconds.

That could be the Rockin' Roller coaster of monorails...I like it.

 

[Rasvar]

Or just rip it all out - track and all, and replace it with this:

http://cnn.it/1D8DwMX

TOT to Epcot in 10 seconds.

That poor squirrel a ways back would have been toast.

 

[peachykeen]

A friend I have who still works in Rails took me into a cab of a train the other day, I think it was Teal but maybe not, and it was a mess. Benches missing, same stains as the other photos, but the worst was the console with new switches added for the automation. It looks like someone just drilled random holes in the console and stuck the switches in wherever they felt like that day! There didn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to where they went and they weren't aligned straight.

Also, isn't technically the cab still "on-stage?" It's not very hard for Guests to see in there, and it should be as show-ready as anything else. I remember specifically asking if I could still at least show Guests the cab after we stopped loading, and was told yes. That very well may have changed.

 

[Figment2005]

A friend I have who still works in Rails took me into a cab of a train the other day, I think it was Teal but maybe not, and it was a mess. Benches missing, same stains as the other photos, but the worst was the console with new switches added for the automation. It looks like someone just drilled random holes in the console and stuck the switches in wherever they felt like that day! There didn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to where they went and they weren't aligned straight.

Also, isn't technically the cab still "on-stage?" It's not very hard for Guests to see in there, and it should be as show-ready as anything else. I remember specifically asking if I could still at least show Guests the cab after we stopped loading, and was told yes. That very well may have changed.

Yes, the cabs are bad. If it was teal, then the missing bench would have had a large computer sitting there. The buttons actually make quite a bit of sense too, other than the horn and P/A switches which should be swapped. Two buttons on the left for opening and closing the left doors, 2 buttons on the right for operating the right doors.

The driver will never have to open the doors with the new system. All the controls are inside the cab.

 

[peachykeen]

Yes, the cabs are bad. If it was teal, then the missing bench would have had a large computer sitting there. The buttons actually make quite a bit of sense too, other than the horn and P/A switches which should be swapped. Two buttons on the left for opening and closing the left doors, 2 buttons on the right for operating the right doors.

The driver will never have to open the doors with the new system. All the controls are inside the cab.

I see. They just struck me as being a little sloppy in their execution of them but maybe I was thrown off by everything else haha.

Threads like this make me so happy I at least got to experience driving guests in the cab. I loved it. It's a shame the cabs are always so messy now.

 

[Figment2005]

I see. They just struck me as being a little sloppy in their execution of them but maybe I was thrown off by everything else haha.

Threads like this make me so happy I at least got to experience driving guests in the cab. I loved it. It's a shame the cabs are always so messy now.

Guests rarely see into the cabs anymore. Most drivers shut the door when they step out as to not give false hope, and when the train is parked the cab is out of guest view. However, I do wish they were in better condition.