Appalling state of the monorail cabins

[lazyboy97o]

How am I tirelessly defending bad choices? The only thing I defend is that Disney is making the RIGHT choice by replacing the carpeting in the cabins. You and many other poster down right refuse to acknowledge the right choices because of the bad choices made in the past. By constantly badgering me and belittling me because my perspective and opinion differs from yours, you accomplish nothing but increasing my lack of respect for you.

New carpet will hardly fix the issues being described and discussed, much less the culture that allows such conditions to develop in the first place. The culture you tell us is the best it can be given the circumstances, as though Disney does not control the circumstances. You're being badgered because you repeatedly badgered others and pretty much said they are liars, that these conditions are not the way things are and that it is easy to see that with more time and observation. The evidence should be easy to provide since you insisted the better conditions are more prevalent.

 

[MinnieM123]

i have seen that beam in action, and it is not slow, but it requires all motion stop on all three beams --- express, resort, and spur

That was very interesting. I've always enjoyed riding, and learning about the monoraii. This is the first time I've seen one of the beams move into a different position. Thank you for sharing that clip.

 

[ford91exploder]

A friend I have who still works in Rails took me into a cab of a train the other day, I think it was Teal but maybe not, and it was a mess. Benches missing, same stains as the other photos, but the worst was the console with new switches added for the automation. It looks like someone just drilled random holes in the console and stuck the switches in wherever they felt like that day! There didn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to where they went and they weren't aligned straight.

Also, isn't technically the cab still "on-stage?" It's not very hard for Guests to see in there, and it should be as show-ready as anything else. I remember specifically asking if I could still at least show Guests the cab after we stopped loading, and was told yes. That very well may have changed.

Culture of abandonment writ large, Would it have been so hard to to do a die cast BUD box with a strain relief and military connector (green cylindrical MS series with locking ring) on an umbilical for the automation controls, Would have been neat and professional but it seems like that no longer counts at WDW.

 

[Nick Wilde]

This thread's still going? I'm surprised it hasn't been locked. It's caused so much fighting and arguing.

 

[unkadug]

This thread's still going? I'm surprised it hasn't been locked. It's caused so much fighting and arguing.

And that is different from the other threads how?

 

[peachykeen]

I think there's enough current and former Monorial pilots on here to start a cool "Favorite Monorail Pilot Memories." There'd be some good stuff there. Like the time I used the emergency kit piece of string to pull up a box of Hess pizza that a manager bought me to the cab of my train, because I had been stuck on the Epcot spur line without power for about 3 hours. God those were fun times. Truly.

 

[Rasvar]

I think there's enough current and former Monorial pilots on here to start a cool "Favorite Monorail Pilot Memories." There'd be some good stuff there. Like the time I used the emergency kit piece of string to pull up a box of Hess pizza that a manager bought me to the cab of my train, because I had been stuck on the Epcot spur line without power for about 3 hours. God those were fun times. Truly.

The rope of life. About the only time having a Hess pizza would be welcome.

 

[Cesar R M]

i have seen that beam in action, and it is not slow, but it requires all motion stop on all three beams --- express, resort, and spur

that angle looks very tight. I wonder if the monorail base gets hit by corners.

 

[peachykeen]

that angle looks very tight. I wonder if the monorail base gets hit by corners.

Pilots are not allowed to go over 3mph (aka "walking speed") through any of the thrown switches. It is quite rough and loud inside the train as you go over them; lots of banging and bouncing.

There's a screen that the pilots are supposed to watch as they go through which indicates "beam contacts" and is then reset after the train goes fully through the switch. If any of the contacts don't clear, maintenance has to check the train. The switches back at shop are even more fun! The only non-walking speed switches are 8 and 9, from Express to Epcot.

 

[Diva120]

Tokyo Disney monorail:

Disney World used to look like that. The 'Disney' in the name didn't denote cartoon franchises, but a place where everything was spotless, freshly painted, friendly and reassuring.
While I understand that in 2013 East Asia is First World and America is Third World, UNI still manages to have spotless transportation systems. Shiny and clean:

WHOA!

 

[Diva120]

This may not be news to some, but may be for others - it needs highlighting. The monorail interiors are in a shocking condition.

I didn't go looking for this, just happened to be in a single car with no passengers, and just took a moment to realize just how bad things have become. These photos were taken yesterday on Monorail Black, but the problems can be found on all monorails and in some cases they are a lot worse than these photos.

Just how far is WDW prepared to let the condition go? I routinely go on subway trains in NYC that are in a far better condition than this, and let us not forget, these are the monorails transporting guests from those $2000 per night rooms in the new Grand Floridian Villas.

Stains on nearly every surface
View attachment 39227
Damaged seats, rips and stains
View attachment 39228
Missing trim on door panels
View attachment 39229
Damaged trim, non existant paint
View attachment 39230
Mold and stains on seats
View attachment 39231
Stains on doors
View attachment 39232
Cracked and broken trim
View attachment 39233
Mold growing on the roof panels
View attachment 39234
Mold and grime on the roof
View attachment 39235 View attachment 39236

Unfortunately, this might explain my asthma kicking up after a monorail ride. The A/C always smells musty

 

[Cesar R M]

lol, WDW's monorail system looks like a ghetto subway system compared to Tokyo's.

 

[peachykeen]

I'd like to show this photo of the cab of MKIV Monorail Red. That's Mk4!! As in, in service from 1971-1991ish.

Look how clean it is, 44 years after it began service. This photo was taken yesterday.

 

[Figment2005]

I'd like to show this photo of the cab of MKIV Monorail Red. That's Mk4!! As in, in service from 1971-1991ish.

Look how clean it is, 44 years after it began service. This photo was taken yesterday.View attachment 91427

Its been sitting on a trailer being towed around the country. Not an Apples to Apples comparison. Quit grasping as straws.

 

[MonorailLover]

Its been sitting on a trailer being towed around the country. Not an Apples to Apples comparison. Quit grasping as straws.

I was going to say, its obviously been cleaned and taken care of since its being moved around.

 

[peachykeen]

Its been sitting on a trailer being towed around the country. Not an Apples to Apples comparison. Quit grasping as straws.

When did I say I was comparing anything?! I simply pointed out how clean it is! I figured people following a monorail post would enjoy seeing it, but it wasn't worthy of starting its own thread. And a lot of people may not realize a MKIV from a MKVI so I emphasized the difference.

Sounds like if anyone is grasping for straws, it would be you.

For what it's worth, I was in the cab of Black the other day and it looked great.

 

[Las_Puertas]

This is a sad day for all monorail kind.

 

[note2001]

This is a sad day for all monorail kind.

Are you referring to this accident reported yesterday? http://www.wpbf.com/national-news/m...dshield-of-orlando-airport-tram-dies/32887340

 

[Figment2005]

When did I say I was comparing anything?! I simply pointed out how clean it is! I figured people following a monorail post would enjoy seeing it, but it wasn't worthy of starting its own thread. And a lot of people may not realize a MKIV from a MKVI so I emphasized the difference.

Sounds like if anyone is grasping for straws, it would be you.

For what it's worth, I was in the cab of Black the other day and it looked great.

You didn't outright say you were, but you made a post about how clean an old, out of service monorail was in a thread about the appalling state of the monorails. How else is that supposed to be taken? It goes right along with the folks talking about how much better things were taken care of in the past.

 

[EpcoTim]

It goes right along with the folks talking about how much better things were taken care of in the past.

They were.