Dan Deesnee
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Nobody said anything about 125k making them feel deprived. Idk where that's coming from.
I live in an average to lower end cost of living area, fyi
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Nobody said anything about 125k making them feel deprived. Idk where that's coming from.
I live in an average to lower end cost of living area, fyi
DVCscott
Member
Now that I think about this more, didn't that YouTube channel that made some movie at Disney (Escape from Tomorrowland, or the one about Walt's frozen head?) get some sort of backlash from the Mouse for filming inside park gates without permission or license?
Yet vloggers do the same thing, filming for profit, only difference is one is make believe while other is documentary of park happenings. Both still a business yes?
Not complaining how it's run, just curious.
Figgy1
Well-Known Member
I'm certain if somebody stuck a camera in somebody's face unwanted at Disney they'd be trespassed. A passing shot is one thing up close and personal without permission is another https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/question-unauthorized-use-of-photo-28285.html
DVCscott
Member
Some people were saying that type of coin "isn't much" or "not a lot" or something similar. That led me to think their problems had more to do with spending issues rather than income, since they felt it wasn't enough to make the cup seem full, so to speak.
DVCscott
Member
But again, YouTube slides above the law for many things. Like my example earlier, if I ran a television network (Travel Channel, Food Network, etc) and decided to stroll into Galaxy's Edge to shoot a documentary without permission/permits/and all the other legalities that go with it, me and my network would be sued off the air. YouTubers don't have to jump through those hoops.
TikibirdLand
Well-Known Member
Not sure why that link was provided. If you're walking in a park and someone is videoing, say, 7DMT, and your 6 yr old daughter steps in front of the camera, you cannot force them to delete the video. To take it further, if you approach said camera-person and scold them about taking your daughter's video (a really good close-up even), you cannot sue for that either. You'd have a tough time suing unless you can prove that they used you or your daughter's image out of context in some way that is defaming in some grose way. I don't see that happening in any of the park videos I've watched (and, my wife says I watch way too many of them). And, no, they wouldn't be trespassed either unless THEY were causing a disturbance (you might though if you pull a Darren on the photographer). Simple photography in a Theme Park or on public property cannot be held a crime in and of itself. But, I do want to point out, don't be a jerk (had a more "robust" word there) with your camera. You don't need to cause a scene to get the perfect shot of the castle.
TikibirdLand
Well-Known Member
Exactly who would fine them? Under what law? I think they're just covering themselves from people thinking they can get paid for doing so. Frivolous lawsuits are gonna Frivil.
Figgy1
Well-Known Member
I was talking about the person who was literally shoving cameras in peoples faces. Not just somebody just taking random videos
TikibirdLand
Well-Known Member
Have you actually seen any of the vloggers doing that? Seems that would lose viewers really quickly.
DVCscott
Member
I don't know all the fine print. All I know is that running a business as a YouTuber puts many people out of the arms of the law.
Just look up videos people have done by simply recording and uploading sports compilations of best plays, best comebacks, you name it. Or others that re upload other people's trending videos, songs from other artists, tv show clips, for profit and get away with it making bank.
It happens. But it's allowed.
Poseidon Quest
Well-Known Member
I've been doing the YouTube experiment and that seems to be more in line with what I'm seeing. I think to a large degree, it depends on the type of content produced and what types of advertisers it attracts.
unmitigated disaster
Well-Known Member
The median US household was $68,703 in 2019. $125,000 is more than double that.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
...but will that get you past the 75 minute wait at Peter Pan???
important question
Kram Sacul
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- Yes
They were absolutely charming when they started but over time they’ve become annoying, political and generally full of themselves. They also have a habit of removing and blocking anyone who dares say anything remotely critical about them. A shame.
I miss the old Tim and Jen Tracker who were genuinely likable and didn’t pander to anyone. The baby was the best thing for them but the worst thing to happen to the channel.
champdisney
Well-Known Member
What I can’t stand about these Vloggers is their aggressive race you to the finish line! approach. They’re all appearing at the same places doing the same damn thing. For example, Velocicoaster opened a few days ago and the amount of random channel recommendations from all of these different Vloggers coming at me at once all throughout my YouTube feed. All of them attending opening day. Real original.
Last time I checked, I only watched Adam the Woo, MickeyViews, and PagingMrMorrow. I guess it only takes those 3 channels to recommend me to the rest of them.
Anyways, Adam the Woo is my go to. Been watching him for 10 years and still find him insightful and entertaining. I read some posts from several other members that Adam has stopped road tripping and went full-time Disney vlogging... that is not true. He recently uploaded a week/week and half series of videos road tripping with his pops, driving down memory lane. Not gonna lie, I only watched the first 2 episodes but it was interesting.
MickeyViews was better when he originally had the “news studio” gimmick going on. Since then, he’s moved to Central Florida and has been doing more of the “out on the field” reporting which is cool. I love his outro music.
Now with PagingMrMorrow... to be honest I’m on my last strings with that guy. Extremely repetitive, he hardly knows what he’s talking about and his editing techniques are terrible. Precisely why I stopped watching TimTracker... this was before the baby.
I’m really into the non-theme park content creators that talk about theme parks. Offhand Disney, Disney Dan and Defunctland. Sure, they’ll go to the parks from time to time but nothing compared to the vlog hogs.
Last time I checked, I only watched Adam the Woo, MickeyViews, and PagingMrMorrow. I guess it only takes those 3 channels to recommend me to the rest of them.
Anyways, Adam the Woo is my go to. Been watching him for 10 years and still find him insightful and entertaining. I read some posts from several other members that Adam has stopped road tripping and went full-time Disney vlogging... that is not true. He recently uploaded a week/week and half series of videos road tripping with his pops, driving down memory lane. Not gonna lie, I only watched the first 2 episodes but it was interesting.
MickeyViews was better when he originally had the “news studio” gimmick going on. Since then, he’s moved to Central Florida and has been doing more of the “out on the field” reporting which is cool. I love his outro music.
Now with PagingMrMorrow... to be honest I’m on my last strings with that guy. Extremely repetitive, he hardly knows what he’s talking about and his editing techniques are terrible. Precisely why I stopped watching TimTracker... this was before the baby.
I’m really into the non-theme park content creators that talk about theme parks. Offhand Disney, Disney Dan and Defunctland. Sure, they’ll go to the parks from time to time but nothing compared to the vlog hogs.
unmitigated disaster
Well-Known Member
I don't pay much attention to vloggers but I want to punch them when they decide to narrate a ride. Like, shut up for the people around you. They don't want to hear you. They're there for the ride.
Sir_Cliff
Well-Known Member
From what I can tell, it would put those Disney vloggers within or at least close to the top 10% of earners in the US. Not bad, particularly if you're living in Florida. Also shows that they probably aren't stepping over too many alternative employment opportunities that would earn them a higher or even comparable income.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I call the ordinary adventurers the “Anaheim trackers”....there is little noticeably different in schtick these days.
I think if you manage to enrich yourself talking about Disney - and it’s beneficial greatly to Disney - overtime you just end up being of the mentality. It may not be a personal choice.
the one guy that started an early Disney site parades around DL like a Twit (apparently)...some board operators are demons from the 6th layer of hell...vloggers get a little arrogant...podcasters tend to be worse.
...but not this board’s operators. You can have opinions and not be growling jerks. They do a great job here.
Walter Elias Disney
Well-Known Member
Vlogging is their full time job...nothing to fall back into..They were former Disney College Cast Program members...which led into full time positions.
Uncle Scrooge
New Member
As a UK based fan of Walt Disney World the vloggers provide that escapism but also connection with Disney. I have looked at different channels over time and settled on ResortTV1. What I liked initially was that they explore other parts of the resort, not just the parks themselves. These are areas which I would otherwise never have seen which could now potentially be somewhere I drop into the next time I visit.
Latterly I enjoy that the majority of their content is live so unedited and that they chat along with their followers whilst in the parks. I rarely watch their full streams but most weeks catch between 2 and 4 hours of a stream to get that Disney fix but also feel the sense of community.
I think any aggressive attempts to monetize through use of Disney is not ideal and I would not want to support any channel that was seeking handouts/donations.
At the end of the day if he vloggers enjoy it and the viewers enjoy it and Disney has no problem with it then what's the harm?
Latterly I enjoy that the majority of their content is live so unedited and that they chat along with their followers whilst in the parks. I rarely watch their full streams but most weeks catch between 2 and 4 hours of a stream to get that Disney fix but also feel the sense of community.
I think any aggressive attempts to monetize through use of Disney is not ideal and I would not want to support any channel that was seeking handouts/donations.
At the end of the day if he vloggers enjoy it and the viewers enjoy it and Disney has no problem with it then what's the harm?