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Any examples of 'bad show' from years gone by?
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graphite1326
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Mickey is almost always a woman. Next time you see mickey look at his actual height. Female.
wdwgreek
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I highly recommend this blog in general, but this is a particularly good post on this topic!
http://passport2dreams.blogspot.com/2012/08/go-away-green.html
http://passport2dreams.blogspot.com/2012/08/go-away-green.html
disney4life2008
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Lol it still doesn't change my opinion of females in male roles or the opposite.
s8film40
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In fairness from what I remember hearing those characters were not Disney operated characters but were part of the company did the ice skating show and they asked them to appear at the park. They also didn't used to take the character quite so seriously back then. It was more representative than trying to make people actually believe that was Mickey Mouse.Best example....HM In 1971....It looks too clean and you can clearly see the show building...
Characters with their heads off during the opening day of DL in 1955..
Everest is pretty good example of bad show. The entire ride just looks dirty, the effects are half gone, and the yeti is still a mannequin
gsansone
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Interesting discussion. I have been visiting since the mid-70s and within the past 9 years I have purchased DVC property, so I have visited now with my kids about 7-8 times over the past 8 years and it's interesting to see things differently than when I was the kid. Without question the exiting behind Main St. would have been a HUGE no-no years ago (no guests backstage!) but then again the MK wasn't designed to handle the crowds that it receives these days. Main St. can be the most uncomfortably crowded area, esp. after a parade. Also doesn't help that, secondly, Main St. has turned into a shopping mall. Another bummer. No longer a turn of the century town, but rather a modern merchandise mecca, complete with Starbucks. With the expansion of Disney Springs, is it really that necessary to forego all imagination in one of the MK's lands? Also notice staffers out of their areas sometimes -- such as a worker dressed to be in Adventureland, but walking through another area. The only other thing I can think of off the top of my head, which I deal with EVERY time we go now, is the literally CONSTANT ride breakdowns. When it's busy I think rides stop/break down more than not. It's really frustrating. A few visits ago we rode Space Mountain just before closing -- very small line, zipped right in. And what do you know, near the end of the ride it stops, leaving us sitting in the dark, pinned to our seats for 5-10 min. before the lights come on a someone hand to manually walk us out of the attraction. I haven't ridden since. I've been walked off Winnie The Pooh, too, after a breakdown. Crazy.
Not only did they do that years ago but back then there was no fencing or trees to hide the rather ugly area that is backstage (a recent addition). In the past I've seen CM's standing around on their breaks or emptying trash etc as we've walked through, it's something they've done when needed a while now.
Doug Means
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this was a great read
Thanks for that. I agree with @Doug Means that is is an excellent read!
Chef Mickey
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LOL, I think it's still representative, at least for the adults. They just take character integrity seriously now.
s8film40
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It's funny because in some ways they take character integrity more seriously now and in some ways they don't. In the past anything that portrayed a character had to be approved and match the set look of that character. Merchandise and depictions of the characters had to look correct. Now we have Tsum Tsum's, Funko Pop's and deformed characters all in the name of being more "cute" and character integrity is out the window when it comes to that stuff.
Chef Mickey
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That's just how merch works. I think Disney considers character integrity mainly in regards to any live character portrayals where there is interaction. This is an area intense training and guidelines need to be established. "Baby Mickey" and Tsum Tsum are just purely representations of the character meant as a keepsake or toy. The risk is extremely low.
rob0519
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I respectfully disagree about the turn around in the last 6 or 7 years. On my trip to the MK last year, almost every bathroom I went into was dirty; paper all over the floor, counters not wiped off, multiple toilets not in usable condition, etc. I blame Disney management for most of it, but unfortunately it's the customer's causing a lot of the problem. Food is certainly passable, but not up to prior standards and depending on the refurbishment schedule of resorts, you can still get a pretty worn out room. It happens in every hotel thought, not just Disney.
rob0519
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Winnie is almost exclusively female as well for the same reason.
rob0519
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Does this opinion apply to any other roles outside of fully costumed characters? Females have played Peter Pan on stage for decades.
s8film40
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Well yes it's more of a pop culture shift than anything else, and you can't blame them for following that. That is what character integrity used to mean though, and they used to be very strict.
disney4life2008
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I know. Do not remind me
Was this out in the open? The people to the left of Mickey look like regular peopleCharacters with their heads off during the opening day of DL in 1955..
s8film40
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I believe that was opening day, yes those are probably regular opening day guests there. This really wasn't all that uncommon at that point in time. Here's an older one, this was viewed as a theatrical representative type of thing. A good analogy to this would be the way the Nemo show at DAK is done today, you can clearly see the actors working the puppets, but it's understood and accepted.