Hey, I know two people who work for him.
But I was a little surprised to see his ad when I was driving from the airport in Philly.
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Anti- Autism Suit Against Disney Update
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Hey, I know two people who work for him.
But I was a little surprised to see his ad when I was driving from the airport in Philly.
HarperRose
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LOL
JohnD
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Hey, I know two people who work for him.
How can you not know people who work for him? He's everywhere.
Oddysey
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I just heard a local radio commercial with him telling a story about how he got in a car accident to not fault of his own. He insinuates that when the guy responsible for the accident recognized his face, he was terrified.
I then thought to myself: "Is that really such a good thing, and is it worthy to brag about?"
Dave Z
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Sounds like Buffalo NY!This is Florida - there's a lawyer who advertises "If you don't get paid, we don't get paid" on every corner.
Ricky Spanish
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I equate those lawyers to another "profession" that works on corners.....This is Florida - there's a lawyer who advertises "If you don't get paid, we don't get paid" on every corner.
When you are looking to retire off of a JEA truck barely tapping your bumper at a red light, yes.
jloucks
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However, reading in to this article more, I get the feeling these parents that have children with special needs are possibly using their children's disabilities towards their advantage for getting in front of lines.
Ya think?
jloucks
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Some good points in that article. I hadn't thought of it before, but the article specifically cites riding in cars or planes to get to WDW proves that waiting can and is done. So now, once you arrive at WDW, the need intensifies?
Did I read the article correctly that folks are ticked because getting a 'fastpass time' is not really bypassing the line? As in, doing something else until you can hop right on a ride is not an option? These folks are demanding immediate, and sometime repeat, access to rides, at the expense of all others.
At some point, accommodation just goes too far. I think we are there now. WDW is a really good test for accommodation limits because of how many people are affected by the accommodation(s).
...and they have a lot of money to fight in the courts.
Did I read the article correctly that folks are ticked because getting a 'fastpass time' is not really bypassing the line? As in, doing something else until you can hop right on a ride is not an option? These folks are demanding immediate, and sometime repeat, access to rides, at the expense of all others.
At some point, accommodation just goes too far. I think we are there now. WDW is a really good test for accommodation limits because of how many people are affected by the accommodation(s).
...and they have a lot of money to fight in the courts.
Figgy1
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I really didn't want to chime in here but feel that I must. A little back story, my older ds is autistic and we do use the DAS or GAC or whatever they're calling it now both the old and new version. Not every ride or even every day but we are thankful for it when we have used it. That being said I would gladly trade it for not having to deal with the struggles of having to deal with some aspects of his different abilities. All that being said I think a return time is more than fair because there is so much to see and do when not riding the rides with just a bit of research. Now I go and hide under a rock from the people who think instant access(which was never always granted or stated it was) and the people who say everybody who uses it is cheating the system
Gitson Shiggles
There was me, that is Mickey, and my three droogs
In my experience, CMs would let us directly into the FP line only when standby wait time was roughly 20 min or less. Otherwise, we were given FP return times comparable to the majority amount of time we would have spent in the standby line.
As much as I hate to admit, Disney is purely non-essential entertainment. I agree with @The Mom that a ruling in favor of the plaintiffs would provide those with the DAP a superior service and would invite more people to exploit the system.
Here’s a quote from another article on this from a mother who has two autistic sons:
“It took a lot of therapy to get my kids used to the new system [as opposed to the old system where they would get front-of-the-line access],” Goddard said.
First world problems. You’d think the people were being deprived of sustenance.
KBLovedDisney
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Well...¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Willmark
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Much like anything when comes to a situation like this it’s all about the time cost/opportunity that is Disney.
This is true whether it’s scooters, strollers on special needs.
In some cases it very well could be a lack of empathy on some people’s part, in other cases nothing to do with empathy. I don’t think anyone isn’t going to sympathize with the parent of a special needs child nor making an accommodation.
Where people will object is how much at Disney, especially in light of pas behaviors of people trying to get to “the front of the line” using people they hired in wheelchairs.
If Disney makes reasonable accommodations than they are doing their jobs. It will be up to the court to decide but I’m struggling with the stance of “they can’t stand in line” when Disney (rightly) points out that they sure did to get there.
Then there is the angle or perspective of the other guests. They are paying just as much, maybe more. They have to wait just like everyone else.
Then add it there people who cut lines all the time, different cultural expectations, states of intoxication, short fuses, hot humid weather, daily rain showers, “Its a small world” playing nonstop in your brain after riding and other number of myriad of stresses and I can see why people are grumpy.
But then as the parents point out imagine what they have to go through on a daily basis.
In close I’m not exactly sure how this should end. In get both sides and Disney is in the middle. If this were as simple as empathy or the lack thereof this would be an easy case to decide.
Paper straw fan
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I feel like the people who are tasked with making WDW a place accessible to as many people as possible have to be thinking "Jeez, seriously?" I mean, no I am not shedding a tear for poor old WDW, but I don't think the "I'm totally making this about myself" ladies pictured up above want anything less than red carpet rollout for themselves (and I guess their kid too, but mostly them).
I know I don't get the challenges they deal with- but like others have said, I feel like WDW has already done a good job of helping to make a trip to the parks as seamless as they possibly can.
I saw this on the local news last night, and another topic these people stated was for Disney to 'help keep their child's routine the same' If that is what your child absolutely needs, maybe skip the amusement park with thousands of people, loud noises and lights?
I know I don't get the challenges they deal with- but like others have said, I feel like WDW has already done a good job of helping to make a trip to the parks as seamless as they possibly can.
I saw this on the local news last night, and another topic these people stated was for Disney to 'help keep their child's routine the same' If that is what your child absolutely needs, maybe skip the amusement park with thousands of people, loud noises and lights?
Wendy Pleakley
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Exactly.
It's not realistic that autistic guests be able to ride every single attraction, as many times as they want, with no wait.
The fact of life is, some people cannot do certain things due to disability. Someone in a wheelchair or with an artificial limb cannot ride a roller coaster.
If someone's autism is so severe, that they have zero capacity to wait in any line at all, is it not unfair to say that visiting a busy theme park just isn't something that they can do?
Disney's accommodations seem more than reasonable.
jloucks
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A lot of people disagree with you. To me, it seems like common sense.
i am always surprised at how many.
lazyboy97o
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It’s not that any and all waiting is a problem but the fixations that are typical of autism. The rides themselves are fixations for some and that is where the problems arise. In past threads, family members have also described the lengths to which they go when traveling to avoid such issues when in transit.
CaptainAmerica
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Maybe, and I'm just spit-balling here, parents shouldn't bring their children to a place that is going to cause them psychological torment.
Analogy: Child has a crippling fear of fish. Parents decide to take the child to a damn aquarium. Parent demands that the aquarium remove all of the fish to accommodate their child. Aquarium offers special fish-free programs where the child can see turtles, shore birds, and other non-fish creatures. Parents file lawsuit because they weren't given exactly what they demanded.
It's no different.
jloucks
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Robotic fish, costing 2400% more than regular fish, are now required.
