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Answer to Epic Universe?
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DisneyMusician2
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Well when you look at the numbers overall from 2019 (obviously pre-pandemic) Walt Disney Company had 155 million visitors to Universals 51 million worldwide. The Magic Kingdom alone had 20.9 million visitors, Universal Orlando was at 10.9 and IOA at 10.3. Putting all other factors and quality arguments aside, how reactionary should they really get based on overall draw from 2019? I think we'll have to look at the 2021 numbers but losing even a couple million from each park and the draw will still be better. They're not worried about things like this until they have a reason to be.
EDIT: Full disclosure got these numbers from the Themed Entertainment Association reports
yensidtlaw1969
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Wasn't the DAK Project some sort of version of TDS' Mysterious Island?
That was always the one I wanted to know more about . . .
Marc Davis Fan
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Right, I understand that people will always go to MK, and I understand that they want to spread attendance through the other parks. I'm not disputing either of those things.
However, I'm saying that because The Magic Kingdom is (wrongly, but nonetheless) viewed as the flagship and representative of "Disney," it's important for the long-term public perception of "Disney theme parks" to make sure MK retains its standing as the best that a theme park can be - which, I would argue, it has already lost and thus should reinstate.
matt9112
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Meh neither give me the same whimsical experience from potter land. Pandora is very close though and is so beautiful. GE is amazingly bland and is a land of upcharges and one good ride....that most park guests statistically cant ride. So i nean glass half empty i guess?
matt9112
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It's really just the classics...and fantasy land....and the castle. The park isn't anything amazing by todays standards but it ozzes nostalgia and has almost all the "kiddie" rides in the WDW envelope. I love some of the rides but the crowds and amazingly lack luster food (for peasants as myself) as well as the whole no drinking unless i sell my left arm...you want to surround me with a thousand strollers but i have to smuggle vodka in? No thanks.
DisneySongbird
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I don't think it's unreasonable at all, actually. Not every ride can be a mega showstopper - you need some lower quality rides to boost numbers and soak up capacity. Disney on some level realizes this - Toy Story Land wouldn't have gotten Alien Swirling Saucers (opened 2018!) otherwise.
There are a number of names in the carnival flat ride industry and a wide catalogue of off-the-shelf C-tickets. Galaxy's Edge picking up a C-ticket Air Race that Imagineers slapped some TIE Fighter theming onto is far from the worst thing that could happen to that corner of the park, as one example that jumps to mind.
I'm not advocating that Disney turn around and buy up an entire carnival midway's worth of flat rides and bring back Mickey's Toontown Fair with them or something similarly absurd, but quietly installing the aforementioned Air Race ride and making that a footnote as part of Galaxy's Edge 2.0 now featuring the Galactic Starcruiser Experience? That sort of thing should be happening more, and it's highly unlikely that anybody would be seriously upset by it, and I don't think anybody should be upset by it.
(Now, if Chapek's Disney treated said Air Race's installation as a headline-worthy event, or tried to pass off other future off-the-shelf B/C-tickets as E-tickets, that'd be worth getting angry about. But to be clear, that's not what I'm suggesting.)
Bingo. Thank you.
Pretty much JTTCOTE with a different monster and a 20K either a) left as an empty space for later or b) as a walk through to be turned into a ride later or c) as the ride from day one (unlikely even back then)
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Imagineer45
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That's fair. However, if we are going with the assumption that people will visit MK regardless because it is viewed as the flagship park, then it would only need minimal investment.
I agree that it should not be unreasonable, but it is simply not the direction the parks are going in. Personally, I think a ratio of about 2:1 smaller rides to E-tickets is good, but Disney has made this closer to 1:1. While this has benefited the smaller rides in that their quality is generally pretty high, it has the negative consequence of fewer overall rides and lower total capacity.
denyuntilcaught
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Wow. Sounds like it would have been a truly tremendous addition to the park, even minus 20K on opening day.
JusticeDisney
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All 4 of WDW's parks outdraw every one of Universal's parks. End of story.
Brer Panther
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First off, wasn't Epic Universe cancelled because of the pandemic?
Second, I don't picture Disney building a fifth park anytime soon. I'm not sure I'd even WANT to see a fifth park made by Iger and Chapek. Whatever funds they currently have are going towards the Splash Mountain retheme, and even if that gets cancelled (here's hoping) I think the chances of them using those funds for a fifth park are microscopic.
Second, I don't picture Disney building a fifth park anytime soon. I'm not sure I'd even WANT to see a fifth park made by Iger and Chapek. Whatever funds they currently have are going towards the Splash Mountain retheme, and even if that gets cancelled (here's hoping) I think the chances of them using those funds for a fifth park are microscopic.
Giss Neric
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JTTCOTE is an overrated ride to be honest. The acceleration portion was like less than 10 seconds and it's over. The first part was great with the animatronic monster. The queue for this ride is way better like Gringotts.
comics101
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Hey, at least WDW got MyMagic+ though, right??
comics101
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You don’t think people skip Epcot and go to Universal for a day or two, given the park’s current condition? I understand that it’s temporary, but…
Postponed. Work has restarted.
Jon81uk
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Not sure if an Air Race would be the right choice but it does feel like Galaxy’s edge needs B/C tickets. There is secondary experiences for a fee (lightsaber and cantina) but no shows or small rides really.
JIMINYCR
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Sure there may be some that skip EP, again as I said Disney will lose a day or two out of peoples trips. The EP events still are bringing people in numbers that are excited about the food and drink kiosks. I stand by my comment that no matter what Uni does it will never overtake Disney as the more popular destination.
Magenta Panther
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Good! Thanks!