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News Annual Pass price increases June 2019
- Thread starter Rteetz
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I agree, compared to sports tickets and concerts tickets (which also are underpriced), Disney is very inexpensive. Concerts for just 3 hours at most run $200-300/ seat for top tier acts, which is a good bit more than a whole day of entertainment at WDW
Everyone currently in GE is by limited reservation. It opens to the public next week.
I believe those are all you can buy if you're out of state
bubbles1812
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That's because it's on a limited reservation system right now. Only the hotels are getting the reservations. Next week, I believe, is when SWGE opens to people not in the hotels. What you are currently seeing is not a reflection of what will be the true reality going foward.
CaptainAmerica
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If you're going to limit the number of guests, it seems logical to admit the people willing to pay the most.
CaptainAmerica
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Fair enough. For those wondering:
"And what we're trying to the basically is 2 things, is to price according to demand, and in managing demand, try to basically spread out attendance so that we can preserve or improve the guest experience; it's that simple."
So I was too broad when I said "decrease attendance." They want to decrease attendance at peak times and increase attendance during slower times.
Lensman
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I think everyone agrees that the AP price increases are shocking.
I wonder if they'll ever implement seasonal surcharges? You know, like instead of raising the price of the Platinum Pass by $200, have a season-specific gate surcharge of $10 or $20 per entry or day. You could even make the surcharge MK-specific or exempt Epcot.
What I'd really like to see (but probably never will) is a strategy where margins stay the same or only increase slightly, but the competitive moat is made wider by an accompanying increase in value. That's the investment in cutting edge attractions, better food, and transportation infrastructure that I'd like to see.
It would make me feel like the high prices I pay are worth it and keep me as an enthusiastic customer rather than a somewhat resentful one.
I think Disney wants to be able to reduce AP attendance more during peak periods. I think we can see this in how the increases for Plat passes are much higher than, say, for Weekday Select.
I wonder if they'll ever implement seasonal surcharges? You know, like instead of raising the price of the Platinum Pass by $200, have a season-specific gate surcharge of $10 or $20 per entry or day. You could even make the surcharge MK-specific or exempt Epcot.
I agree that it's this "smoothing out" that's the goal. I think that it's on top of across-the-board price increases (as inferred earlier n the year from daily ticket price increases), plus some extra price increase due to the SW:GE opening.
What I'd really like to see (but probably never will) is a strategy where margins stay the same or only increase slightly, but the competitive moat is made wider by an accompanying increase in value. That's the investment in cutting edge attractions, better food, and transportation infrastructure that I'd like to see.
It would make me feel like the high prices I pay are worth it and keep me as an enthusiastic customer rather than a somewhat resentful one.
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
These things are not the same.
Kamikaze
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I'd imagine Oga's is going to have the same limits as at DLR: 2 drink maximum and 45 minutes in a booth. You can hang out at the bar for as long as you want, but you can't get any more than 2 drinks.
Kamikaze
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This is because they blocked out all CM maingate passes and were only opening them a few days before the date - after schedules had come out.
Katie G
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If they every sent you a letter or email with the renewal rate on there, I believe they have to honor what they offered you.We were two days from renewing our APs. Has anyone ever had any luck calling and getting grandfathered into the old rate? Probably a ridiculously dumb question...but it doesn't hurt to ask.
Flynnwriter
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It would be great to believe Disney was a tad equalitarian.
as out of home entertainment experiences, they absolutely are the same
Kamikaze
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If they work like ordering an AP online used to, they don't expire - they start when you exchange the certificate for an actual ticket.
CaptainAmerica
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Initially, sure, but long term you think?
All I can think of is the crowd that was in Disneyland's Trader Sam's during my trip in February. The resort QS spot was closed for refurbishment so we had to get food there a couple of times and the SAME people were there for entire days at a time on multiple different days. From the badges they left conspicuously on the table, they were half cast members and half pass holders.
CaptainAmerica
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That would be a silly thing to believe. Hell that's a silly thing to even want to believe.
RustySpork
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Spreading guests out sounds nice in theory, but with school breaks being in the summer freeing up most families it's got to be a difficult task. Then again, shifting the non-family demand to other times of the year will reduce the crowd levels over the summer.
Horizons '83
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I believe all the schools near me (in Georgia) have a Fall break in September, Christmas/Holiday Break in December, a Winter break in February, Spring Break in April then the typical Summer break so spreading crowds in theory should be easier to do, but I am not sure that is how it is for Florida schools.
Kamikaze
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From what the bartenders were told - thats the long term plan. A member of our party was a regular and knew a bartender in the cantina that had transferred from Lamplight.
Trader Sams has a ton of regulars as well, even Emmett, but the line is usually a max of 20 minutes or so. I'd say a 20 minute Oga's line will only happen first thing in the morning.