Annual Pass Previews of Pandora - The World of Avatar beginning May 13

Kman101

Well-Known Member
Did you have the cheesecake? You haven't lived until you have.

No. I plan on going back June 2nd (snagged a FP when my 30 days was open) so I'll try it and breakfast then. I didn't even think about the cheescake and it's usually my favorite dessert in general so I'll have to get it next time. I tried the bowl with beef and the cheesburger pods. The pods were alright. I wanted to try both the bowl and the pods so I was pretty stuffed.
 

RustySpork

Oscar Mayer Memer
No. I plan on going back June 2nd (snagged a FP when my 30 days was open) so I'll try it and breakfast then. I didn't even think about the cheescake and it's usually my favorite dessert in general so I'll have to get it next time. I tried the bowl with beef and the cheesburger pods. The pods were alright. I wanted to try both the bowl and the pods so I was pretty stuffed.

I love cheesecake, and this cheesecake is unlike any other. The beef bowl was good, but I liked the chicken bowl a lot more. Need to get back and try the pods. I can see myself visiting a lot over the summer just to eat.
 

flyerjab

Well-Known Member
Did you have the cheesecake? You haven't lived until you have.

I agree on the cheesecake. It looks freaky but tasted great! In all honesty, the food was a surprise hit. The chicken bowl with rice and the creamy herb sauce was delicious, served in real bowls and with silverware.

Also, glad to hear you enjoyed it @Kman101! It was totally worth the wait. FoP is insanely good!
 

Kman101

Well-Known Member
I love cheesecake, and this cheesecake is unlike any other. The beef bowl was good, but I liked the chicken bowl a lot more. Need to get back and try the pods. I can see myself visiting a lot over the summer just to eat.

I agree on going back and eating. The pod was ok. Flavor wasn't bad but it seemed like it was missing something, I don't know. The beef was good and I'd get it again but I think I'll like the chicken more.
 

Kman101

Well-Known Member
I agree on the cheesecake. It looks freaky but tasted great! In all honesty, the food was a surprise hit. The chicken bowl with rice and the creamy herb sauce was delicious, served in real bowls and with silverware.

Also, glad to hear you enjoyed it @Kman101! It was totally worth the wait. FoP is insanely good!

Really was worth the wait. I felt so detached from the rest of Animal Kingdom. It's on another level and I find Animal Kingdom to be a gorgeous and incredibly well themed park but this takes it to a whole new level.

FoP was unbelievable.

I dread the crowds in the land and in the queues because it was so nice to walk onto both rides (literally the boat was waiting for us to load) and have low crowds walking around.
 

Clyde Birdbrain

Unknown Member
What's your opinion of the two rides?

Flight of Passage is incredible. The queue itself is a work of art. Every surface is themed in such great detail; the rusty walls, the airlock doors, the moss growing everywhere, the signage. Some areas really make you feel like no person has been there for many years and nature has taken over. I loved this aspect of it. I am not a huge gamer, but I've played the Uncharted games. I was thinking of Uncharted when I walked through the queue. I know it sounds corny, but it kinda felt like being in a real-life video game, especially because everything looks so alien. When you walk over something you can look down and there are plants, or objects, or a themed surface. The queue also nicely progresses through different areas as you go deeper into the mountain base. Then the ride itself was a breathtaking experience. We rode it twice and had a small problem the first time. We were locked into our chairs (pretty tightly, so you cannot move or even touch your leg to scratch an itch) and the CM left us there for about 10 minutes. I figure there must have been a problem with a guest in another room, but it was unpleasant and a bit claustrophobic to be stuck there without knowing what was going on. I find that a CM should stay in every room to make sure everyone is okay, or at least check in on us every couple of minutes. Then suddenly the ride started and you get 'transported' into this gorgeous world with thousands of animals flying, swimming and running around, with wind blowing and water splashing in your face. You're leaning forward on the seat and I found myself ducking and swaying left and right during some of the scenes. It was spectacular and I find it the best ride at Disney World right now, especially if you consider the whole package with the queue.

Na'vi River Journey is a very different experience, but a beautiful ride on its own. The queue here is much simpler, but still gorgeous as the ceiling over the waiting area is covered with all these woven objects, I found that quite impressive. It must have taken artists countless hours to make all that. Disney really spared no expense in the theming of this land. As I wrote in another thread, I had read so much about this being a short ride that I had low expectations, but I didn't find it that bad. It is a slow relaxing boat ride through a beautiful landscape that I think fits into the land and Animal Kingdom very nicely. I have yet to see Pandora at night, but I do wonder how NRJ will compare with just walking around at Pandora at night with the bioluminescence and lit-up plants. If the wait time for NRJ is long, why wait for a short boat ride when you can walk around freely in this huge immersive land with similar alien plants, especially at night like the ride?

The rides were nice, but I was probably most impressed with the land itself. So many alien plants and themed surfaces. I was staring at this huge alien flower/plant that looked so beautiful, it must have taken an artist, or a team of artists, many hours to craft that thing. And the whole land is filled with things like that. As passholders my wife and I love going to Animal Kingdom to just walk around and look at the animals and beautiful theming. We'll probably spend a lot of time at Pandora doing just that.
 

doctornick

Well-Known Member
Oh. My. God. Absolutely incredible.

Joe Rohde knocked this out of the park. If he's overseeing SW Land, it will be beyond words.

He's not overseeing Star Wars (he is in charge of the Marvel portfolio, however).

The Imagineer in charge of Star Wars is Scott Trowbridge, who has an impressive resume IIRC. I think he would be the analogous person to Rohde/Pandora.
 

djkidkaz

Well-Known Member
He's not overseeing Star Wars (he is in charge of the Marvel portfolio, however).

The Imagineer in charge of Star Wars is Scott Trowbridge, who has an impressive resume IIRC. I think he would be the analogous person to Rohde/Pandora.

The only thing I know Scott did was create Spider-Man at Universal. What else is on his resume that will knock my socks off?
 

HauntedMansionFLA

Well-Known Member
Flight of Passage is incredible. The queue itself is a work of art. Every surface is themed in such great detail; the rusty walls, the airlock doors, the moss growing everywhere, the signage. Some areas really make you feel like no person has been there for many years and nature has taken over. I loved this aspect of it. I am not a huge gamer, but I've played the Uncharted games. I was thinking of Uncharted when I walked through the queue. I know it sounds corny, but it kinda felt like being in a real-life video game, especially because everything looks so alien. When you walk over something you can look down and there are plants, or objects, or a themed surface. The queue also nicely progresses through different areas as you go deeper into the mountain base. Then the ride itself was a breathtaking experience. We rode it twice and had a small problem the first time. We were locked into our chairs (pretty tightly, so you cannot move or even touch your leg to scratch an itch) and the CM left us there for about 10 minutes. I figure there must have been a problem with a guest in another room, but it was unpleasant and a bit claustrophobic to be stuck there without knowing what was going on. I find that a CM should stay in every room to make sure everyone is okay, or at least check in on us every couple of minutes. Then suddenly the ride started and you get 'transported' into this gorgeous world with thousands of animals flying, swimming and running around, with wind blowing and water splashing in your face. You're leaning forward on the seat and I found myself ducking and swaying left and right during some of the scenes. It was spectacular and I find it the best ride at Disney World right now, especially if you consider the whole package with the queue.

Na'vi River Journey is a very different experience, but a beautiful ride on its own. The queue here is much simpler, but still gorgeous as the ceiling over the waiting area is covered with all these woven objects, I found that quite impressive. It must have taken artists countless hours to make all that. Disney really spared no expense in the theming of this land. As I wrote in another thread, I had read so much about this being a short ride that I had low expectations, but I didn't find it that bad. It is a slow relaxing boat ride through a beautiful landscape that I think fits into the land and Animal Kingdom very nicely. I have yet to see Pandora at night, but I do wonder how NRJ will compare with just walking around at Pandora at night with the bioluminescence and lit-up plants. If the wait time for NRJ is long, why wait for a short boat ride when you can walk around freely in this huge immersive land with similar alien plants, especially at night like the ride?

The rides were nice, but I was probably most impressed with the land itself. So many alien plants and themed surfaces. I was staring at this huge alien flower/plant that looked so beautiful, it must have taken an artist, or a team of artists, many hours to craft that thing. And the whole land is filled with things like that. As passholders my wife and I love going to Animal Kingdom to just walk around and look at the animals and beautiful theming. We'll probably spend a lot of time at Pandora doing just that.
Awesome. Thank you very much for your detailed response. I can't wait to see the land in person. We like to walk around DAK too. It's one of those parks that has so many little details it makes it so relaxing. I know a lot of people who want to run to ride to ride then leave the park. We have always made thus a full day park, easy.
 

Kman101

Well-Known Member
Awesome. Thank you very much for your detailed response. I can't wait to see the land in person. We like to walk around DAK too. It's one of those parks that has so many little details it makes it so relaxing. I know a lot of people who want to run to ride to ride then leave the park. We have always made thus a full day park, easy.

Same. And you will love Pandora. It was incredible. So well done.

I can easily make AK a full day park. It still needs a few more things to do but it's much more of a full day park than DHS if you don't do all their shows.

I overheard quite a few guests remark that AK was their favorite park. One I heard while getting off the ferry boat at MK. Made me smile. I think affection for the park is growing. I remember going not long after it opened and I've always loved it. The makeover of Discovery Island was well done and Pandora is an incredible addition.
 

djkidkaz

Well-Known Member
What is the last day for AP and DVC previews? I'm wondering if the land will soft open to all guests the following day?
 

twebber55

Well-Known Member
It's safe to say that Star Wars Land is in great hands. I think Rohde does as good a job as anyone at creating layers of detail and non-linear story, but I have faith that Trowbridge will blow us away with Star Wars.
questions and a bit off topic
i listened to your podcast yeasterday as always it was a good listen but i have a question
you mentioned the phrase emotional attachment a lot but i ve heard you in the past talking about us needing more non-IPs in the parks..isnt the whole idea of IPs is emotional attachment? me personally i think most people are looking to be immersed in a land and that quality is far more important than IP

EDIT: i think visiting the land will give you and your boys a much different feel for the land
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
questions and a bit off topic
i listened to your podcast yeasterday as always it was a good listen but i have a question
you mentioned the phrase emotional attachment a lot but i ve heard you in the past talking about us needing more non-IPs in the parks..isnt the whole idea of IPs is emotional attachment? me personally i think most people are looking to be immersed in a land and that quality is far more important than IP

EDIT: i think visiting the land will give you and your boys a much different feel for the land
Thank you for listening, I appreciate it.

It's a hard thing to explain, but I'll try.

When you have an attraction based on an existing/known IP, you have already developed an emotional attachment to that IP. It can be good, bad or indifferent. With Harry Potter, the reason why people walk into Diagon Alley and start crying is because they had the existing attachment to the property before hand and Universal made it a reality. There's a familiarity there that helps them tell the story.

There are certainly people that have that same attachment to Pandora, but not to the same extent that people have an attachment to Harry Potter or Star Wars. That makes for a significant hurdle when comparing the two areas. Emotion is a huge part of Disney's nostalgia and the appreciation we all get from a ride or a land, but it's often a factor that is rooted more in the source material than the ride or land itself.

When it strictly comes to quality, that can also build emotion but without the previous level or interest it's starting from a lower point. From a quality standpoint, it appears that Pandora is as good, if not better than Diagon Alley, however there is no guarantee it will connect with guests on the same level. That's one of the arguments I make when talking about Africa. From a quality standpoint, it's on par with Diagon Alley, but it lacks that emotional connection with some people. I imagine that a native African may walk through Harambe and get nostalgic. That may create more emotion than that same person visiting Diagon Alley.

So why does any of this matter? In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't. But the reason why Disney and Universal are on their movie based IP kick lately is because when you bring in the emotion associated with an existing franchise you can sell merchandise. In Harry Potter, the merchandise is as much a part of the land as any other thematic element. In Pandora, that's not the case.

What I think people will be unable or unwilling to do is separate their existing emotion, their predisposition to like or dislike something based on an intellectual property when assessing the land. We do that with everything in life and act and opine accordingly.
 

Kgw2202

New Member
Hey everyone! So I'm scheduled to have my AP preview on May 22nd from 6-8 pm. The weather forecast says that there will be thunderstorms that whole day. If there are thunderstorms, will the rides in Pandora close temporarily?
 

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