News Announced: Mary Poppins Attraction in UK Pavilion

Fox&Hound

Fox&Hound

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Amidala said:
Huh.......? The whole point of the movie is that both Merida and her mother needed to learn to see eye-to-eye. I love Merida's mother, but forcing your child into an arranged marriage with the first man to win a competition is pretty far beyond "holding her to high standards." Definitely agree that Brave was an underwhelming movie compared to other movies that have come out of Pixar (it felt hyped up as a travel movie in the vein of Up or Brother Bear, and didn't deliver at all on that front), but it works well enough as an intimate movie about family (and easily better than most Pixar sequels, which we've been seeing more and more of lately).

People really will drag female characters for just about anything.

That being said...I do agree the UK isn't really the right place for a Brave ride, and that Alice, Dalmatians or Poppins would be a better fit. It might work better in Fantasyland, especially since that's where Merida's meet-and-greet is currently located.
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But that is my exact point! Mother and daughter do not learn to see eye to eye- the mother has to change her mindset so she can allow her daughter to live the life she wants (even if it ruins her kingdom). Yes, arranged marriage has a stigma to it in our modern times, but in Medieval Scotland, the setting of the movie, arranged marriages were common place. Again, not saying that Merida cannot fight against it but it's not as if she comes up with a better solution- she just does what she wants to do. She literally does not change in any way besides telling her mother she loves her. At the end of the movie she rides off in to the sunset she gets to act exactly how she wants to- not marrying anyone, not doing anything to help her kingdom. Just plain old selfish. The mother has the character arc, the mother is the one who changes for the "better" and views her daughter as an individual. But what exactly is the lesson here? Kids- do not listen to your parents, be defiant, and everything will work out fine in the end. Parents, do not force your children to take responsibility and act selfless or you could be turned into....a bear?

Sorry to go off topic here, but Brave would be a poor choice for this area on so many levels.
 
Amidala

Amidala

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I mean, just because something was commonplace at a certain point in history, doesn't mean it's ethically sound...There's a difference between taking responsibility and allowing yourself to be pressured into doing something very serious against your will.

And both characters do have arcs of their own! Merida masters diplomacy, and instead of constantly running away from her responsibilities as a princess, she learns to shoulder these responsibilities like an adult. This was made pretty clear in the scene where Merida quells the fighting between the different tribes and announces that she won't be marrying (prompted & encouraged by her mother). And because Merida makes this progress, her mother realizes that Merida is a competent ruler in her own right, and doesn't need a prince to be a successful princess. I totally understand not liking the movie (it was one of Pixar's more underwhelming films, 100%) but the whole point was that mother and daughter learn from one another and come to an understanding.

But people will have different interpretations, so I understand if this one isn't yours! Sorry again for going off topic here. All of this is probably moot anyway, since (like people have said) Brave isn't the smartest fit for the UK. I would be very happy with Alice, Poppins or Dalmatians (although Dalmatians seems the least likely of the three given that Alice & Poppins have such a strong cult following by comparison?)
 
Jrn14

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Princess Leia

Princess Leia

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Andrew C said:
Smart aleck. So no details then?
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Unless an insider says something, I'm going to say no. If there's news, I'm sure we'll hear about it.

Until then, it's back to the walking in circles, hoping that an insider will just tell us what it definitely isn't (Really, it can't be Great Mouse Detective, right? Can we just confirm that it isn't something based on that or Sword in the Stone?)
 
Jrn14

Jrn14

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with all the stuff in the pipeline (RATT/GOTG/MS Restaurant) and all the stuff behind that not confirmed in the pipeline (Coco/Brazil) when is the earliest this comes into fruition? 2024? We should lock this thread until 2020 and then start again I feel like we are going to be driving ourselves crazy for a long time.
 
Princess Leia

Princess Leia

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Jrn14 said:
with all the stuff in the pipeline (RATT/GOTG/MS Restaurant) and all the stuff behind that not confirmed in the pipeline (Coco/Brazil) when is the earliest this comes into fruition? 2024? We should lock this thread until 2020 and then start again I feel like we are going to be driving ourselves crazy for a long time.
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It was stated awhile ago that it should theoretically open before Ratatouille.

MansionButler84 said:
So they fancy Frozen an E-ticket complemented by the C boat ride next door. The version I hear would similarly bring an E to France and something more modest next door while you wait for you Rat FP. I'm all for more balance in WS. I'm aware of an IP concept and a non-IP. Can't share further as it is still early. It could be announced with or after Rat but open before.

All those people arriving at the soon-to-be enlarged International Gateway entrance by boat, gondola, or foot won't have to walk half a mile to find a ride. Phew.
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So, Rat has been announced, with nothing yet for UK. But it could still open before Rat.
 
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