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EPCOT Announced: Mary Poppins Attraction in UK Pavilion

aladdin2007

aladdin2007

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UNCgolf said:
I think there was enough room there to build a C-ticket dark ride -- it actually looks like they might be able to fit the D ticket Little Mermaid ride on that footprint with a bit of backstage reworking (not that anyone should want a repeat of that).

I also think a carousel (which was also rumored at some point) would make more sense for Mary Poppins if they were going to do a flat spinner.

In an ideal world they'd build an E ticket (Mary Poppins deserves an E) by eliminating the "temporary" World Showplace building, but that was never on the table.
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there is room for a dark ride, however I feel like we will never see a traditional bus bar fantasyland style dark ride built again. I would love it more than anything, its so unfortunate that they have moved away from all that. Everything has to be digital, trackless, or coaster now.
 
Disney Analyst

Disney Analyst

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MisterPenguin said:
What would you have like to have seen if not tea cups? Mind you, given the space, it'd still be a C-Ticket 'flat' ride.
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If it can't be a dark ride (even Fantasyland scale would be nice), I'd go for carousel horses, trackless, Luigi's Rollickin' Roadster style.


I mean, you could even have it setup to look like a carousel when you walk in, then have it all split apart into the trackless style of Luigi's.
 
MrPromey

MrPromey

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JenniferS said:
I think the point is - it SHOULD be. Poppins deserves a bigger treatment than teacups … with an elaborate queue.
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To be fair, I don't think the original Poppins has quite the sentimental cache with current younger generations as it does with those of us born in the last millennia. I also don't think that the sequel really brought on a ton of new fans, either.

I think the property is valuable these days to Disney in an iconography sense more than from a story angle.

The truth is, unless some of these things get modern sequels that catch on or are rebooted, the classic live-action stuff, in particular, is going to continue to slip more and more out of popular appreciation.

While I think it's important for them to keep producing a family-friendly balance of attractions for all ages, I don't know that it makes sense to be investing heavily into attractions that will stand for the next 20, 30... 50 years based on things more and more children today are already unfamiliar with.

If the second movie had done better, maybe but I think the best thing for this would have been an outdoor carousel with heavy visual nods to the movie, the music being played by the organ on the ride and maybe a plaque referencing the cultural value of the movie and story it was inspired by - especially as an attraction in World Showcase.

Beautiful, respectful, and simple.
 
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MrPromey

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Rteetz said:
A-C tickets are needed in the parks. Not everything should or needs to be a major ride. Flat rides when done well are ok.
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The problem is A-C ticket attractions just need to happen.

No real announcements - no building of expectations - just open them.

Even if Disney keeps their mouth's shut, the bloggers are going to be out there squealing about how amazing xyz is so there is a limit to how far they can get with that but that's the world we live in.

That said, I think we should have found out something of this scale was coming from Biosconstruct rather than at D23.

I feel like the only two ways we'll ever really get things this way going forward, though, are with a new park or as an accessory to a D-E ticket - both in cases where they can happen with a budget that includes stuff meant to draw in crowds - not to just help eat them the way we want these attractions to.

... and the problem there is, they don't fix the current situation, they just help mitigate some of the extra congestion caused by the bigger new attraction with the heavy promotional budget attached to it.
 
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Disney Analyst

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MrPromey said:
The problem is A-C ticket attractions just need to happen.

No real announcements - no building of expectations - just open them.

Even if Disney keeps their mouth's shut, the bloggers are going to be out there squealing about how amazing xyz is so there is a limit to how far they can get with that but that's the world we live in.

That said, I think we should have found out something of this scale was coming from Biosconstruct rather than at D23.

I feel like the only two ways we'll ever really get things this way going forward, though, are with a new park or as an accessory to a D-E ticket - both in cases where they can happen with a budget that includes stuff meant to draw in crowds - not to just help eat them the way we want these attractions to.

... and the problem there is, they don't fix the current situation, they just help mitigate some of the extra congestion caused by the bigger new attraction with the heavy promotional budget attached to it.
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I think you made my point more eloquently than I did late last evening.

Yes we all agree "filler" attractions are needed. Flat rides, A-B-C tickets, etc. So just do it, insert them where appropriate. Honestly, it doesn't even need to be announced, make a blog post if needed, wait until it is almost ready and be like "surprise, new teacup style ride at Epcot opens next month".

But if you announce at D23 "A Mary Poppins attraction for Epcot", and then this is the possible outcome... you are just setting yourself up for blowback.

Manage expectations. Scale the announcement properly.
 
Coaster Lover

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Rteetz said:
That's your opinion. I or others may think those deserve D and E tickets.

A-C tickets are needed in the parks. Not everything should or needs to be a major ride. Flat rides when done well are ok.
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If it were up to me Emperor's New Groove would have an E-ticket, but I don't think that's happening.

C-tickets work best as part of a "mini-land". If this was the Poppins Tea Cups + a (more or less) standard Poppins Carousel and one other Poppins themed flat all within the Cherry Tree Lane set, I think there would be far less complaints (and it would go much further in filling the parks needs for C ticket attractions).
 
Rteetz

Rteetz

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Coaster Lover said:
If it were up to me Emperor's New Groove would have an E-ticket, but I don't think that's happening.

C-tickets work best as part of a "mini-land". If this was the Poppins Tea Cups + a (more or less) standard Poppins Carousel and one other Poppins themed flat all within the Cherry Tree Lane set, I think there would be far less complaints (and it would go much further in filling the parks needs for C ticket attractions).
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In this context, I view each country as a mini land. No country has more than one ride. I think a flat ride in a country is fine addition. Is a tea cup style spinner the answer? Maybe not.
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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Rteetz said:
In this context, I view each country as a mini land. No country has more than one ride. I think a flat ride in a country is fine addition. Is a tea cup style spinner the answer? Maybe not.
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I think adding a flat ride to the UK (or other pavilions) would be fine. I just don't think it makes sense to build an elaborate facade and queue based on Mary Poppins (or any IP, really) for one. That feels like a waste of resources, and as others have mentioned, would be setting themselves up for complaints/blowback. Just build a covered flat ride behind (or even replacing) the gazebo! The World Showcase is a place where if you're going to build a simple attraction like that you only need to make it fit the existing pavilion rather than go overboard. Save that for bigger/more substantial attractions.
 
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