Ragetti
Member
They wanted to avoid boos in the theater.
I'm being snide... but Dubya is an unpopular president and a very polarizing figure. I'm sure they just wanted to avoid controversy
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They wanted to avoid boos in the theater.
I'm being snide... but Dubya is an unpopular president and a very polarizing figure. I'm sure they just wanted to avoid controversy
Mecha Figment
New Member
your forgetting that Clinton and bush sr. were put as figures to help out during the Tsunamis
cupanudles
Active Member
:lol::ROFLOL::lol::ROFLOL:
SDav10495
Member
I don't think that's exactly being "snide"...it's just realistic. Regardless of your own personal persuasion, it's obvious that the political climate right now does not favor George W. Bush and Disney would run the risk of inviting some harsh reactions to his image were they to include him among the other figures in the AA montage. If, years down the road, the current issues Bush faces have disappeared from the public consciousness and he is viewed as one of history's greatest Americans, then sure, put him in the montage. But right now at least...not such a good idea. (And whether I think that's actually going to happen or not...well...
)As for whether or not Clinton and Bush Sr. should be included to the exclusion of Bush Jr...well, I think each of them (yes, even Clinton) is a less inflammatory figure than George W. Bush, so there are certainly fewer reasons why not. And--I could be wrong--but I'm guessing this is footage of Clinton and Bush Sr. when they were working together in recent years after events like the tsunami? (Edit: like Mecha Figment said as I was posting this) If so, that's at least a positive image to have in the montage...one that reflects more of that true American spirit that goes beyond party lines.
Horizons1
Well-Known Member
Thanks for that, they sure made a really good job of editing the music to accomodate the extra length.
Same but different.... so I thought until the 2 minute mark! To think this is where the original `82 version ran into its end chorus. Interesting.... and 9/11 was covered very well. Those 2 images say it all.
Thanks for the vid - as always, WDWMagic forums pull through
Vernonpush
Well-Known Member
The music is actually the same length 3:50 mins.:shrug: As Martin said, "Same, but different".
Testtrack321
Well-Known Member
I agree in full on all points EXCEPT the youtube/google one. I should have been more specific and mentioned the people behind it and adding them, same with Bill Gates and Steve Jobs, etc. Important people that can be added.
ms7479a
Well-Known Member
I think that the September 11 images are very tastefully done. I got goosebumps watching it.
Krozar
New Member
If you're in a high-tech industry, go work for a subsidiary of the Chinese government in Shang Hai or Beijing. You won't have to pay anything back, unless you decide to move back to the US
Capt. Jack
New Member
Thanks for posting the video, it looks incredible.
SDav10495
Member
I see, that does make sense. The creators of Google and YouTube are certainly worthy, yes...though the problem I would see with that is, unlike Bill Gates and Steve Jobs (who definitely deserve spots in the montage), the creators of Google and YouTube haven't achieved "celebrity status" to the point where their images could mean much to most guests. I've seen and read loads of interviews with them, yes, but (forgive me) for the life of me I can't confidently name one off the top of my head, or picture their faces the way I can with Gates and Jobs. While I see your point better and understand that the people behind Google and YouTube have certainly changed our lives, I don't know whether their faces (next to those of people like Clinton and Oprah) would click with the majority of guests. They're more "invisible" pioneers.
yeti
Well-Known Member
Just another example of Disney's best efforts to whisk you away from the world of Disney to the tragic real world. And I get the impression that we are praising this change?
:hurl:
SDav10495
Member
Um...seriously? I understand where the sentiment is coming from, but The American Adventure has never been about the "world of Disney"--it's all about the real world, the real America. In fact, all of Epcot is (or should be). We do not visit Epcot to enter a "Magic Kingdom", we visit Epcot to try to better understand our real world and the real people we share it with. It's about finding solace and solutions in the promise of the real future--it's an optimistic "real world" as only Disney could envision it. It's a "real world" that doesn't have to be tragic, as you say. Disney is to be applauded for tastefully and rightfully including images of 9/11 in that tradition of forward-thinking optimism--and shame on Disney were they to pretend that such a momentous event never happened.
Save the barfing for Mission: Space. :animwink:
AEfx
Well-Known Member
It is an attraction that deals with American culture and history. History doesn't just mean things that happened 100's of years ago. It's not like they are putting video of real world tragedies into Peter Pan's Flight or Snow White's Scary Adventures.
I agree, the real world belongs out of Disney in most cases. In this case...it's the whole point of the attraction.
AEfx
yeti
Well-Known Member
Good point(s). And very well put.
EVERYONE PRETEND I NEVER SAID ANYTHING
And I'd rather die than barf on Mission Space.
Rob562
Well-Known Member
Two things I noticed from the video...
It's probably more obvious in the theater but on the kinda-dim video I had to rewind it three times to make sure that *wasn't* the Leave a Legacy stones I was seeing at 3:19... Turns out it's the Walt Disney Concert Hall in L.A.
They added more fireworks to the New York skyline at the end. The very large, very bright burst that goes off behind the Statue of Liberty is concealing the WTC towers. This was probably the easiest (and best) thing for them to do, though the other option I'd have considered (were I someone in a position to make these decisions) would have been removing the towers from the film and inserting the towers of light that they did a few years back.
-Rob
It's probably more obvious in the theater but on the kinda-dim video I had to rewind it three times to make sure that *wasn't* the Leave a Legacy stones I was seeing at 3:19...
Turns out it's the Walt Disney Concert Hall in L.A.They added more fireworks to the New York skyline at the end. The very large, very bright burst that goes off behind the Statue of Liberty is concealing the WTC towers. This was probably the easiest (and best) thing for them to do, though the other option I'd have considered (were I someone in a position to make these decisions) would have been removing the towers from the film and inserting the towers of light that they did a few years back.
-Rob