Am I the only one that dislikes BTM?

[_Scar]

If you consider the mine train at SFoG to be well themed, then I can certainly see how you would consider BTMR to be too much to process. Its kind of like how people who enjoy somewhat bland food can't stand spicy food because it's just too much. Again, a matter of personal taste.

I said it was themed, not well themed. Please don't put words in my mouth.

And that metaphor doesn't quite make any sense because you're saying anything spicy is great and not every well themed ride is great. SGE *cough*

I read somewhere once that Walt Disney liked for the attractions to be so detailed that people wouldn't be able to take it all in on just one ride. The idea was that it would keep the attraction interesting because people would constantly be discovering new details that they hadn't noticed on prior rides. BTMR is a great example of this practice.

Walt had nothing to do with the creation or execution with Big Thunder, you know right? :lookaroun


And it is detailed, very detailed- but wouldn't you think it's frustrating when there's so much detail and you're going too fast/shaking/overall distracted to catch any of it? :lol:

 

[Ziffell]

I said it was themed, not well themed. Please don't put words in my mouth.

Fair enough. I was paraphrasing you, but you are right, I was doing so inaccurately. My apologies.

And that metaphor doesn't quite make any sense because you're saying anything spicy is great and not every well themed ride is great. SGE *cough*

The analogy I was making wasn't about the quality of food or of roller coasters. You stated that one of the things you don't like about BTMR is that it is too heavy on the themeing and details and that it is too much to take it all in as a consequence. My comparison was to state that some people are that way (i.e. they prefer things that are simple as opposed to too complex). I was using food (spicy versus not spicy) as my metaphor, but maybe that wasn't a good one to use. :lol:

Walt had nothing to do with the creation or execution with Big Thunder, you know right? :lookaroun

Yes. However many of the core principles that were established by Walt are still followed by today's Imagineers. Creating an attraction that is very heavy on the details is one example of this, and I consider BTMR to be among the best examples of it. The Indiana Jones Adventure at DL is perhaps the best example to date, and obviously Walt had nothing to do with that one either.

And it is detailed, very detailed- but wouldn't you think it's frustrating when there's so much detail and you're going too fast/shaking/overall distracted to catch any of it? :lol:

I see your point, but no I actually prefer an attraction that is essentially sensory overload (for the reasons I've stated previously). I love going on a ride that I've been on countless times before and suddenly noticing a detail that I've never noticed before. It's fun! I'm the same way with movies. There are certain movies that I can watch over and over, and I love it when I pick up on some small detail that I didn't catch before.

 

[_Scar]

Fair enough. I was paraphrasing you, but you are right, I was doing so inaccurately. My apologies.

No worries. :animwink:

The analogy I was making wasn't about the quality of food or of roller coasters. You stated that one of the things you don't like about BTMR is that it is too heavy on the themeing and details and that it is too much to take it all in as a consequence. My comparison was to state that some people are that way (i.e. they prefer things that are simple as opposed to too complex). I was using food (spicy versus not spicy) as my metaphor, but maybe that wasn't a good one to use. :lol:

Yea, I like things simple where they should be and detailed when they should be. Just my preference and style.

Yes. However many of the core principles that were established by Walt are still followed by today's Imagineers. Creating an attraction that is very heavy on the details is one example of this, and I consider BTMR to be among the best examples of it. The Indiana Jones Adventure at DL is perhaps the best example to date, and obviously Walt had nothing to do with that one either.

I haven't rode Indiana yet, but I have rode Dinosaur and I can see all the details on that ride. :shrug:

I see your point, but no I actually prefer an attraction that is essentially sensory overload (for the reasons I've stated previously). I love going on a ride that I've been on countless times before and suddenly noticing a detail that I've never noticed before. It's fun! I'm the same way with movies. There are certain movies that I can watch over and over, and I love it when I pick up on some small detail that I didn't catch before

I'd prefer the heavy detail in say an omnimover, but I do see and respect your point. :lol:

 

[princessmelinda]

Everyone has their own opinions . I like it, its a good ride, but if it were my last day and a 2 hour wait...I wouldn't cry over missing it. And the queue to wait is so gross and disgusting when its especially hot, smells HORRIBLE. Still a good ride tho

 

[brucie]

Yes you are the only one

 

[JLW11Hi]

I really find that ride terrible. Unlike their other themes, I just don't like the themeing of that ride, its never stuck with me.

Am I the only one? In my family I am, can't stand that ride, its the only one out of WDW/DLR that I truly don't enjoy.

I really can't pinpoint what it is about the ride, just makes me feel that if I want the frontierland experience, I'll go around the shops, TSI, and SM.

Just a little clarification:

So it is the theming of the ride that you don't like? As in the set pieces, props, etc that you ride through? What is it exactly that you don't like about it? Do you think that the pieces fail to form a cohesive story? Or is it the idea of a runaway mine train that you dislike?

How about the ride itself? Too tame? Too wild? Too shaky?

I ask because there seems to be a little confusion as to what exactly you dislike about it. Some people are defending the fact that it is a fun family coaster, others are defending the intricacy of the theming, and others are defending the choice of theme itself (the American west, rocky mountains, abandoned mine town, railroad, etc.)

Just thought it would help if you'd clarify.

 

[JLW11Hi]

I really like BTMRR. Looks great, fun little coaster.

My one problem is that even though its a tame coaster, there are parts that seem like they could have been designed better and still keep the ride just as tame. If I remember correctly, there's one part where the train is being pulled up one of the many lifts, and the front end doesn't even get a chance to "fall" because the other end is still being lifted up the other side. So by the time the entire train makes it over the hill and starts moving freely, the front end has already leveled out. Kinda silly. :shrug: