All things Knotts Berry Farm

Phroobar

Phroobar

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I saw Snoopy's Night Before Christmas last night. It was a great show. It was similar to last year but with different songs and more acrobatics. Linus did his reading of Luke 2 to thunderous applause. The show is worth the price alone.

Knott's Merry Farm still has the full list of live entertainment. Even Krazy Kurt does Christmas songs. Knott's isn't afraid to call it Christmas unlike the other park down the street. The large Nativity is setup across from the lake by the Missions.
 
Phroobar

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PiratesMansion

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Really had a wonderful time at Merry Farm. The craftsmen and booths really made the park feel alive in a way it doesn't always, very reminiscent of Silver Dollar City in that way.

The bakery sweets were on point, honestly better than what I had at Disneyland.

That Snoopy Ice Skating show was incredible! I honestly wasn't expecting much (blame Snoopy Rocks! On Ice at Cedar Point in the mid-aughts, which was heavily hyped at the time but terrible), so I figured I'd be fine to sneak in to the park's largest venue that I've otherwise never seen full about three minutes before a show started, and the mildly incredulous team member pointed to a queue of people already waiting for the next show, two hours away. I didn't realize that the Christmas Ice Skating show had been a decades-long tradition, and it was genuinely a very impressive show with wonderful skating and performances! One of the best theme park shows I've ever seen. All of the other entertainment was good, but not at the level of the Snoopy show.
 
PiratesMansion

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Jrb1979 said:
Doesn't any one go to parks for rides anymore? Knotts has some of the best coasters
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Actually, I find that Knott's overall has a very weak coaster collection. The excellence of GhostRider overshadows a lot of mediocrity.

Xcelerator's short and gimmicky, Hangtime is fun but also kinda gimmicky. Pony Express is comically short, Sierra Sidewinder is fun but not something I need to do every trip, Silver Bullet is a weird invert that I enjoy mostly because of its atypicality, but it has atrocious placement. Coast Rider is uncomfortable. I want to like Jaguar, but it's about as thrilling as the monorail and I find it's never worth the wait. I'm not the target audience for the Camp Snoopy coaster. I loved Montezuma, but we all know what happened there.

For me, it's all about the Mine Ride, Log Ride, GhostRider, the entertainment (which is why it's a pity that it can be so lacking now), and the atmosphere. Most of the other coasters are distant priorities at best.
 
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shambolicdefending

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PiratesMansion said:
Actually, I find that Knott's overall has a very weak coaster collection. The excellence of GhostRider overshadows a lot of mediocrity.

Xcelerator's short and gimmicky, Hangtime is fun but also kinda gimmicky. Pony Express is comically short, Sierra Sidewinder is fun but not something I need to do every trip, Silver Bullet is a weird invert that I enjoy mostly because of its atypicality, but it has atrocious placement. Coast Rider is uncomfortable. I want to like Jaguar, but it's about as thrilling as the monorail and I find it's never worth the wait. I'm not the target audience for the Camp Snoopy coaster. I loved Montezuma, but we all know what happened there.

For me, it's all about the Mine Ride, Log Ride, GhostRider, the entertainment (which is why it's a pity that it can be so lacking now), and the atmosphere. Most of the other coasters are distant priorities at best.
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Knott's is a great little park, but it has always basically been Six Flags with better theming maintenance and food.

Its flagship coasters, especially, are all low capacity, off-the-shelf designs. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
 
Phroobar

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So I was reading the rules for the food pass. For $154, you get two meals per day at knotts and Soak City for the year. For $10 more, it can be extended to all Cedar Fair labeled parks. There is no pass that includes Six Flags parks. So there is reason to upgrade unless you are planning a long distance road trip. Why can't I have a food pass that works at Knott's and Magic Mountain only?

The $35 drink cup only works at Cedar Fair labeled parks.
 
Jrb1979

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Phroobar said:
So I was reading the rules for the food pass. For $154, you get two meals per day at knotts and Soak City for the year. For $10 more, it can be extended to all Cedar Fair labeled parks. There is no pass that includes Six Flags parks. So there is reason to upgrade unless you are planning a long distance road trip. Why can't I have a food pass that works at Knott's and Magic Mountain only?

The $35 drink cup only works at Cedar Fair labeled parks.
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It will come eventually. It's due to Six Flags parks and Cedar Fair parks having different systems and IT. It takes time to figure it all out.
 
Jrb1979

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shambolicdefending said:
Knott's is a great little park, but it has always basically been Six Flags with better theming maintenance and food.

Its flagship coasters, especially, are all low capacity, off-the-shelf designs. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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I never have understood why so many almost look down on these parks. I know they don't have the theming or the shows but they are still great parks.
 
Phroobar

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Jrb1979 said:
I never have understood why so many almost look down on these parks. I know they don't have the theming or the shows but they are still great parks.
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People get obsessed with a place or team or company and feel everything else is inferior. It's like the old Atari vs Intellivision debate or Dodgers vs Yankees or Apple vs Microsoft. People have to cheerlead for something even if that something couldn't care about that person.
 
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shambolicdefending

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Phroobar said:
It's like the old Atari vs Intellivision debate or Dodgers vs Yankees or Apple vs Microsoft.
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I guess? But, not really.

Knott's, et al don't really compete on terms with Disney parks. They have their own respectable place in the themed entertainment market, but it's not like Microsoft's place next to Apple.
 
Jrb1979

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shambolicdefending said:
I guess? But, not really.

Knott's, et al don't really compete on terms with Disney parks. They have their own respectable place in the themed entertainment market, but it's not like Microsoft's place next to Apple.
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You're right they aren't the same. My question was more that instead of just accepting they are different and moving on, many look down on those parks. Almost dismisssive and question why anyone would step foot in those places.

Yet in many polls parks like Knotts, Dollywood and Cedar Point are right up there with Disney.
 
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US Theme park tiers:

Tier 1: Disney parks and Universal parks
Tier 2: Dollywood, SDC, United Parks, Cedar Point, Kings Island, Knotts, Six Flags Fiesta Texas, Holiday World, Kennywood, Hersheypark
Tier 3: Too numerous to mention but most of the other Cedar Fair legacy parks (not Michigan’s Adventure,) and the good Six Flags Parks
Tier 4: Michigans Adventure, bad Six Flags parks

Tier 1 is the best parks in the country, highly recommended to everyone, tier 2 are very good parks if I could I would have no problem going to them every year, recommend them to people after knowing what they like, tier 3 are ok parks I don’t really seek those out unless they build a new ride or I happen to be in the area but there is nothing terribly wrong with them, theyre “nice.” Tier 4 consist of parks I have zero desire to ever go to again.
 
Jrb1979

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Touchdown said:
US Theme park tiers:

Tier 1: Disney parks and Universal parks
Tier 2: Dollywood, SDC, United Parks, Cedar Point, Kings Island, Knotts, Six Flags Fiesta Texas, Holiday World, Kennywood, Hersheypark
Tier 3: Too numerous to mention but most of the other Cedar Fair legacy parks (not Michigan’s Adventure,) and the good Six Flags Parks
Tier 4: Michigans Adventure, bad Six Flags parks

Tier 1 is the best parks in the country, highly recommended to everyone, tier 2 are very good parks if I could I would have no problem going to them every year, recommend them to people after knowing what they like, tier 3 are ok parks I don’t really seek those out unless they build a new ride or I happen to be in the area but there is nothing terribly wrong with them, theyre “nice.” Tier 4 consist of parks I have zero desire to ever go to again.
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I agree with that list. My issue is how many think the list ends at tier 1.
 

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