All things Knotts Berry Farm

Phroobar

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Those things are typically closed between festivals. K-NOT Radio was a hold over from the 100th anniversary and was rarely used for a while now.
 

Phroobar

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I went friday and saturday to Knotts. The Knotts Preserved show is pretty good. They split the show into Ghost Town, Painted Desert, Gold Mining/ LumberJacks and Pikes Pier Roaring Twenties with musical numbers for each. I really liked the cowboy shoot out / fight dance routine to Ghostriders in the Sky. It reminded me of a old west version of the Jets vs the Sharks. The Pike's Pier roaring twenties dance sequence was a little weird and kind of lost the heavily Hispanic audience. Over all it was a pretty decent show with lots of songs you don't hear much anymore.

The mellodrama Riverboat Revenge was a lot of fun in the Birdcage theater. I saw it twice. The cast rotated parts so that was fun to see the actor that played the bad guy in one viewing was the good guy in the next.

Camp Snoopy, the Music Goes Around I think this was from last summer. Its the typical toddler show. Camp Snoopy was decorated for Easter with lots of eggs, bunnies and lights in the trees. Looked great.

Festival Village you can walk from one end to the other now. Everything is still behind walls. Montezuma's track is completely gone.

Lots of great food options for the Boysenberry Festival. I dare say the food is better at Knott's festival than DCA's one.
 
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PiratesMansion

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I went friday and saturday to Knotts. The Knotts Preserved show is pretty good. They split the show into Ghost Town, Painted Desert, Gold Mining/ LumberJacks and Pikes Pier Roaring Twenties with musical numbers for each. I really liked the cowboy shoot out / fight dance routine to Ghostriders in the Sky. It reminded me of a old west version of the Jets vs the Sharks. The Pike's Pier roaring twenties dance sequence was a little weird and kind of lost the heavily Hispanic audience. Over all it was a pretty decent show with lots of songs you don't hear much anymore.

Festival Village you can walk from one end to the other now. Everything is still behind walls. Montezuma's track is completely gone.
Is the Preserved show going to stick around, or is it just there for Boysenberry Festival?

Starting to get the sense that I won't get to ride Montezuma this summer. I'm going to be there in mid-July, so HOPEFULLY it'll be open, but it seems like it's going pretty glacially so far.
 

Phroobar

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Is the Preserved show going to stick around, or is it just there for Boysenberry Festival?

Starting to get the sense that I won't get to ride Montezuma this summer. I'm going to be there in mid-July, so HOPEFULLY it'll be open, but it seems like it's going pretty glacially so far.
Just Boysenberry Festival.

Summer Nights will have a rotation of live rock bands. They might have a stage show in the Walter Knott theater.

Montezuma is suppose to open this summer. Magic Mountain can put up a coaster in a couple of months. I don't see why Knotts couldn't get it reinstalled in a month. It's all off site fabrication anyway. This isn't Disney that takes five years to build a simple coaster.
 

CaptinEO

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Just Boysenberry Festival.

Summer Nights will have a rotation of live rock bands. They might have a stage show in the Walter Knott theater.

Montezuma is suppose to open this summer. Magic Mountain can put up a coaster in a couple of months. I don't see why Knotts couldn't get it reinstalled in a month. It's all off site fabrication anyway. This isn't Disney that takes five years to build a simple coaster.
Something wrong with Knotts and coaster maintenance, I go maybe once every 5 years, and the only time I saw Xcellerator operating was 15 years ago.

The other times I went a Knotts employee said something about the ride waiting for parts that were ordered.
 

PiratesMansion

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Something wrong with Knotts and coaster maintenance, I go maybe once every 5 years, and the only time I saw Xcellerator operating was 15 years ago.

The other times I went a Knotts employee said something about the ride waiting for parts that were ordered.
Xcelerator is a special case that I wouldn't really blame Knott's for. The ride's manufacturer, Intamin, is known for building rides that are flashy and thrilling, but also notably prone to issues that can be difficult to fix or require special parts that take a long time to manufacture. Intamin was also infamous for introducing a lot of tech that was needlessly complicated and fragile from a technological standpoint-overengineered-which only exacerbates these problems. Xcelerator is far from the only Intamin ride to suffer frequent or ongoing ride closures-Kingda Ka, El Toro, and many many others have had incidents over the years in addition to Xcelerator.

Xcelerator is also being affected by what's happened with Top Thrill Dragster at sister park Cedar Point, given that they use extremely similar technology and launch systems (Xcelerator was essentially built as a trial run for TTD, which at the time it opened was the world's tallest and fastest roller coaster); Dragster suffered a significant incident in 2021, in which a small metal part attached to the bottom of the train flew off the ride and hit a guest. While Cedar Point wasn't found to be at fault for the incident by the state or others who investigated the accident, Dragster has been closed ever since and it's clear that they're in the process of talking with other companies to try and replace the launch system and other components with something safer and more reliable. Since then, a great deal of track has been removed and there has been much rumbling online about potential changes that will make the ride viable for the park going forward.

Given the way Cedar Fair works, it wouldn't surprise me if Xcelerator remains down until CF feels like they have found a solution for Top Thrill Dragster that they're happy with; although what happened with TTD was very much a freak accident, they are a very conservative, safety-focused company that may not want to take any chances considering the similarities between the two rides and the numerous incidents both have suffered over the years.
 
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SoCalDisneyLover

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Xcelerator is a special case that I wouldn't really blame Knott's for. The ride's manufacturer, Intamin, is known for building rides that are flashy and thrilling, but also notably prone to issues that can be difficult to fix or require special parts that take a long time to manufacture. Intamin was also infamous for introducing a lot of tech that was needlessly complicated and fragile from a technological standpoint-overengineered-which only exacerbates these problems. Xcelerator is far from the only Intamin ride to suffer frequent or ongoing ride closures-Kingda Ka, El Toro, and many many others have had incidents over the years in addition to Xcelerator.

Xcelerator is also being affected by what's happened with Top Thrill Dragster at sister park Cedar Point, given that they use extremely similar technology and launch systems (Xcelerator was essentially built as a trial run for TTD, which at the time it opened was the world's tallest and fastest roller coaster); Dragster suffered a significant incident in 2021, in which a small metal part attached to the bottom of the train flew off the ride and hit a guest. While Cedar Point wasn't found to be at fault for the incident by the state or others who investigated the accident, Dragster has been closed ever since and it's clear that they're in the process of talking with other companies to try and replace the launch system and other components with something safer and more reliable. Since then, a great deal of track has been removed and there has been much rumbling online about potential changes that will make the ride viable for the park going forward.

Given the way Cedar Fair works, it wouldn't surprise me if Xcelerator remains down until CF feels like they have found a solution for Top Thrill Dragster that they're happy with; although what happened with TTD was very much a freak accident, they are a very conservative, safety-focused company that may not want to take any chances considering the similarities between the two rides and the numerous incidents both have suffered over the years.
Xcelerator also had an incident where a part hit a boy and his father, and it failed to go over the hill. There's actually a video of it online.
 

Phroobar

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Phroobar

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Just walked pass the Log ride. It is still down. It looks like they are reducing the lift hill and rockwork at the bottom of the flume. No visible changes in the last couple of weeks.
 

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disneylandcm

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Just walked pass the Log ride. It is still down. It looks like they are reducing the lift hill and rockwork at the bottom of the flume. No visible changes in the last couple of weeks.
Thank you so much for checking and helping me plan or set expectations for my next visit. I appreciate you.
 

Emmanuel

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Chaperone Policy returning to Knotts this weekend (also being implemented at other Cedar Fair Parks)

Rules for this version of the Policy:

-Minors 15 years or younger must be accompanied by a Chaperone thats at least 21 years older to be admitted or remain in the park after 4pm.
-One Chaperone can accompany up to 10 guests aged 15 years or younger and must be in the park and available by phone

This also appears to be enforced 7 days a week as there is no mention of it only being enforced on certain days like the previous Chaperone policy

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Emmanuel

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I think that's a real shame since kids and teenagers need freedom and things to do instead of being cooped up in a house.

I know they've been having fights break out, though, so I understand why.

Just a shame it has had to come to this, but it's more a reflection of societal issues it seems. :cry:

Unfortunate because there are teens that aren't like those that cause trouble but it is what it is. I feel bad for those that are well behaved because they suffer from but I have no sympathy for those young teens that caused Knotts to close 3 hours early last year (I was there) and making everyone panic leaving the park.

But as a compromise, they are allowed to be there from park opening to 4pm without a chaperone
 

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