SplashGhost
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I know I have mentioned this before, but slow load times have always been something that has drastically held Knott's back for me. How were wait times and load times in the rest of the park today?
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I know I have mentioned this before, but slow load times have always been something that has drastically held Knott's back for me. How were wait times and load times in the rest of the park today?
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
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Crappy video games. and that building is more known for the two previous dark rides than being closed for the short amount of time it was. it was not closed for "decades", get your facts straight or your argument falls apart
milordsloth
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I felt like the tracking on the shots were pretty bad, but I had a fun time on the ride overall! It's a Knotts ride in my mind, not a Disney ride.Just came off of Bear-y Tales. It was awful.
My argument doesn’t fall apart if you don’t like it. It was certainly closed for more than a decade (2004 to 2015).
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
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You said "decades". It was not closed for "decades".
More than a decade since Kingdom of Dinosaurs closed.
But Knott’s Beary Tales itself was closed for 35 years since October 31, 1986.
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
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Again the building was not closed for "decades" as you said prior to Iron Reef. That was where you were incorrect.
Quite a long time has passed since that building last had AAs. 17 years. It’ll get to 2 decades in 3 years.
PiratesMansion
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They literally just built the thing...not going anywhere anytime soon.
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
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Which is why the last awful ride and this current awful ride should have included some. If "Iron Enchantment Under the Sea Dance" had included some, maybe it would have lasted longer than Vanilla's Ice's career.
By definition, you said AA are good and this Beary Ride is not. You didn’t even defend this with any arguments. If Beary was so good, it didn’t last. The only common denominator is the ride changes and people bring their AA biases over.
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
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It was before my time , from what I hear from this site and elsewhere it was good but it probably got outdated and they replaced it with a much better ride in Kingdom of the Dinosaurs instead of investing to update it. the only reason KINGDOM closed is Knott's (the Knott's Family before Cedar Park bought the park) did not take care of the ride at all and let it decay and become a shell of its former self until it closed and they never fixed it and let the building rot until Cedar Park decided to put in a new ride. People loved Kingdom of the Dinosaurs. Dinosaurs fit Knott's perfectly. Dinosaurs have stood the test of time. The last 2 crappy Jurassic movies made over a billion each because people love Dinosaurs. It's shameful what Knott's let happen to that ride.
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I’m old enough to ride both Beary Tales and Dinosaurs. Each are decent rides. Both suffered from lack of maintenance before their dismantling. I felt both Iron Reef and the new Beary Tales are much more fun than the old versions, which is fine if you like an occasional snooze in your rides. The original rides are slow moving track rides take a bit of time to complete one cycle. You’ll want to get off before it’s over. Knott’s should have more dark rides (scary haunted ride), but let’s not get carried away and pine for the glorious past that never was.
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
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People loved Kingdom of the Dinosaurs but they stopped riding once the decay started to show. That was Knott's fault not because the ride was boring. Shooting at cartoon screens with no interesting visuals or live action animatronics is boring.
The ride was boring. The vehicle was slow moving and it didn’t change. Originally, the vehicles are in continuous track where you boarded like the omnimover. Later, it was switched to 2 or 3 car trains since kids loved to jump out of their seats. Seat belts were added. This reduced ride capacity. The ride became an once and done attraction. Sounds like you don’t understand what Knott’s is capable of. They couldn’t make the dark ride work to their advantage.
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
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I know how the vehicles originally operated and operated at the very end. I was there for all of it. I am aware how the ride experience changed. which is why Knott's is to blame. but the ride was never boring. maybe boring to you but kids loved it, old folks loved it, teens loved to go on the ride to make out. It was a beloved ride that took you to different points in time and had interesting sets and AAs and sounds and visuals. Better than what that video game Beary Tales has now.
Inspired Figment
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I disagree, I think Knott’s Bear•y Tales was always the better & more timeless concept of a ride. Not to mention it was a lot more unique (what other park do you know features a whimsical ride starring bears, strange/weird creatures, truly whimsical, abstract, imaginative settings, and coyotes) not to mention a distinctly Rolly Crump designed creation in how the effects, figures, and scenes were setup. Granted, I know the sequel isn’t quite as immersive or as well executed as the original ‘but’ it’s definitley a step in the right direction and I found it kept the original spirit & was a lot of fun. Far superior to Web Slingers & Toy Story Midway Mania IMO.
In all honesty, if Knott’s had the right amount of real-estate. I could easily see them bringing Kingdom of the Dinosaurs back in another show building and possibly building a Peanuts/Charlie Brown & Snoopy darkride in Camp Snoopy. But we shall see what happens in the future.
In all honesty, if Knott’s had the right amount of real-estate. I could easily see them bringing Kingdom of the Dinosaurs back in another show building and possibly building a Peanuts/Charlie Brown & Snoopy darkride in Camp Snoopy. But we shall see what happens in the future.
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DavidDL
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Rough. First thing I saw when I walked in was a 2 hour wait for Ghostrider. Rest of the big rides were similar. -and they weren’t even selling Fastlane for the day and capacity is supposedly still limited. So it was pretty bad.
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
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I disagree but respect and appreciate your take.
SplashGhost
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That sounds like what Knott's is like pretty much every Saturday. If I am going to wait in a 2 hour line, I at least want it to be fast moving, but the lines at Knott's are extremely slow moving which makes them even more painful. I like the park, but the ops make it my least visited of all the OC/LA parks. Magic Mountain has slow ops on some rides, but they have great ops on others and the park has enough high capacity attractions that it is possible to find something to do without a ridiculous wait even on the more crowded days. Were they running Single Rider for Ghostrider?
An example of how bad there ops are is how they loaded Iron Reef, and I guess they are doing the same with Beary Tales. Each row would only get one group, so if there was a party of 1, then a party of 2, 5 seats would go empty on that vehicle. So the average hourly riders was probably equal to like half of the already low maximum capacity.
Knott's desperately needs a couple of high capacity attractions with good ops. Having been to other Cedar Fair parks (Kings Island, Cedar Point, California's Great America) in recent years, they all had drastically better ops than Knott's has, so Knott's can do better. I feel like they are taking advantage of being the cheap alternative to Disneyland.