Californian Elitist
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Those choices all sound the same to me...sandwiches, chicken nuggets, salads, burgers, and hot dogs, just different kinds of it.
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All There Is To Eat At WDW Are Burgers and Fries!!
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Those choices all sound the same to me...sandwiches, chicken nuggets, salads, burgers, and hot dogs, just different kinds of it.
Otterhead
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I don't, and I didn't say that. Again, you're putting words in my mouth to "win" an argument. Please don't do that. Not interested.
So please, pray tell, what would YOU consider "diversity"?
He knows he is wrong, but will never admit it. Just taking a look at the SHORT list I made for MK alone shows that there is plenty of diversity there.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Do you understand Diversity is not just lots of options WITHIN THE SAME CATEGORIES?
Your list is boiled down too...
pizza
subs
fried chicken patties
Salads
Sandwiches
burgers
hot dogs
(the harbor house standouts.. which I've already addressed twice)
That is not diversity... It's lots of options in the same basic genre. Basically american fare + limited seafood options. Just because Disney can repackage the same core elements a few different ways doesn't really change the core.
The catchy part is Disney can't just offer anything, as the food should fit the lands as well.. but still stands, when you take table meals off the table, and look at a park, and not the entire property... MK in particular is pretty bad. People don't think about it much because we think of WDW as a WHOLE - but when stuck in a park and looking for some food... the field narrows quickly.
So then I ask the same question of you. What would be a "diverse" offering to you? Please advise. And I don't want a cop-out of "Disney can think of something". You say it isn't diverse so you must have SOME idea of what you would consider diverse.
flynnibus
Premium Member
I already gave you a very crude, everyone can digest example.. your typical mall food court. You may have pizza, Chinese, soups, burgers, greek, sushi, etc. That would be an example of diversity. Like I said before, it's not a simply horizontal comparison though because it's a theme park, not just a restaurant district. You don't put a Chinese place in Liberty square because you simply need more food options. Disney has to be more creative than that to avoid duplicating themselves too much.
Diversity could also come with the experience. You can add to the dining experience beyond just the menu by altering how you are served, where you eat, the staging of the meals (example, the family style all you can eat vs counter style, etc). So taking a direct example in Disney terms... the ranch BBQ at DLR is a different experience vs just another QSR. Disney liked to leverage this in their table meals... but QSR is largely the same old format. The adding of a large show element in BoG was what made it so interesting to everyone when announced.
Bengal BBQ vs Plaza Inn vs Sushi would be diverse. Applebees vs TGIFridays is not diverse.
EmmieSue
Well-Known Member
From what I gathered Quick-Service was like a fast food restaurant outside of disney. A Table Service is the same as a sit down restaurant. There are only so many types of food that you can make quickly. When was the last time did you go to a fast food restaurant looking for something except for things like burgers and fries, pizza, chicken, a sandwich, or pizza? In terms of the food most people would consider quick service and that can be made quickly the menu is pretty diverse. They aren't saying "you can have cheese pizza or pepperoni pizza". They aren't offering one type of salad, one type of sandwich, or even one type of chicken. Cosmic Ray's has a grilled chicken sandwich, chicken nuggets, or 1/2 Rotisserie Chicken. It's not just all fried chicken like it could be. It's as diverse as quick service meals can be with the special ones added in like harbor house and the be our guest lunch. And the meals have to fit for the park as well...I couldn't imagine getting sushi or BBQ in a place like magic kingdom. Sushi from Epcot? Sure. BBQ from Animal Kingdom? Of course. But to me it just isn't what I would go to eat in magic kingdom, but it could just be me.
If you want different types of food and more diversity you have to do table service because most foods take a while to cook. So of course quick service is limited, but for quick service Disney is diverse.
If you want different types of food and more diversity you have to do table service because most foods take a while to cook. So of course quick service is limited, but for quick service Disney is diverse.
Otterhead
Well-Known Member
The Tomorrowland Terrace is only open seasonally, but when it is, it has Italian at the counter and Asian noodles / egg rolls / snacks in a buffet.
Tortuga Tavern is under construction, but has Mexican food -- definitely fits the setting.
BOG has lots of French-inspired sandwiches ... salade niçoise, croque monsieur.
I don't really see a way for a Greek QS to fit in MK unless they opened a Hercules themed place
Tortuga Tavern is under construction, but has Mexican food -- definitely fits the setting.
BOG has lots of French-inspired sandwiches ... salade niçoise, croque monsieur.
I don't really see a way for a Greek QS to fit in MK unless they opened a Hercules themed place
007mickey
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"it's a theme park, not just a restaurant district"
To me, that's the answer. Disney World must appeal to the masses and MK is arguably the most popular park in the world. What do the masses eat...burgers, fries, nuggets and pizza. I mean there is a McDonalds on every corner of the world because people like it. So MK is backed in a corner to some extent. They must appeal to the masses because that's 95% of their customers, while the other 5% would love sushi, gyros and paella. Unfortunately the 5% is going to lose that battle. I think they do a fair job of offering some variety (remembering once again, it is a theme park) and some need to look for this variety without their "burger only blinders on".
To me, that's the answer. Disney World must appeal to the masses and MK is arguably the most popular park in the world. What do the masses eat...burgers, fries, nuggets and pizza. I mean there is a McDonalds on every corner of the world because people like it. So MK is backed in a corner to some extent. They must appeal to the masses because that's 95% of their customers, while the other 5% would love sushi, gyros and paella. Unfortunately the 5% is going to lose that battle. I think they do a fair job of offering some variety (remembering once again, it is a theme park) and some need to look for this variety without their "burger only blinders on".
Californian Elitist
Well-Known Member
Go check out the menus of Disneyland's QS. Then come back to me.
jlthomas81
Well-Known Member
Okay, seriously?! I love all those things....but together? Hmmmm.... I just may have to try that in May.....
jlthomas81
Well-Known Member
Tell me how many "fast food" places in the real world offer much more than these items. Because essentially, that is what counter service is...fast food. Counter service food at WDW was never meant to be table service type food. It is meant to be food that can be quickly prepared and quickly consumed. For example, in the real world those options would be, McDonalds, Chick Fil A, Burger King, Taco Bell, Wendy's, Long John Silver's, Subway. All the same types of food as were mentioned above. As @007mickey mentioned above, this is the type of food that is consumed here in America on a daily basis...so why should Disney steer too far off of a course that is already working?
HRHPrincessAriel
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Preach. I obsessed over places to eat almost anywhere I go!
slappy magoo
Well-Known Member
But considering the original complaint is that there's nothing but "burgers and fries," and when you consider that "subs" isn't the same as "A sub," "salads" aren't the same thing as "A salad," "Sandwiches" aren't the same thing as "A sandwich," there's already far more diversity than what the person the OP was complaining about insisted was there. And that's just talking about MK, which is probably the most 'Merkan of the parks. You'll find more options in the other three parks, to say nothing of the fact that there are nicer restaurants a monorail ride away in each of the three resorts. Conversely, the water parks don't have as much diversity.
I feel like the argument is going in circles. Yeah, the parks could be more diverse, just as nearly every mall food court can be more diverse, with their "ethnic" offerings being less homogenized for the safe palates of most Americans. But the theme of the thread isn't "can WDW fast food offerings be more diverse?" It's "are ALL of WDW's offerings NOT diverse?"
Californian Elitist
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If that's the case, why does Disneyland sell food items such as fried chicken dinners with mashed potatoes and vegetables, chicken and rice pilaf, gumbo, burritos/tacos/enchiladas, skewers, pasta, pot roast, etc. at their quick service spots? Disneyland is a busy theme park, too.
jlthomas81
Well-Known Member
I am pretty sure this thread was about WDW....not DL.
DisneyXmas
Member
Wait a minute!!!!
There's other food options other than Casey's hot dogs. I wish I knew that. Never mind love Casey's hot dogs wish I could eat them every night but have way too many favorite restaurants
There's other food options other than Casey's hot dogs. I wish I knew that. Never mind love Casey's hot dogs wish I could eat them every night but have way too many favorite restaurants
Californian Elitist
Well-Known Member
Aha, so you choose to go around my point.
Whether the conversation is about the DLR and WDW, they belong to the same company. People are making up excuses for generic food offered at WDW in terms of quick service when the same company offers a variety of food for quick service at their other property.
The point Flynn and I are trying to make is the restaurants could serve a more variety of food. That's all.
jlthomas81
Well-Known Member
I am not grounding your point as I have no horse in this race. No experience with Disneyland, so I can neither confirm nor deny that what you have to say is true.
As for Magic Kingdom offering more diverse food, its not a very diverse park ethnicity wise so it would be a hard thing to accomplish and stay on theme. Epcot offers enough diversity for the entire resort. DL has two parks, WDW has 4. SO more food options spread out over more parks. Point being, there is evidence that MK offers more than just burgers and fries as the OP was originally stating. Just because you feel that sushi and pasta should be offered at a counter service venue does not mean that there are not other choices to the typical burger and fries. I for one have had but one burger out of all the times I have been in the world, and have never once felt like it was my only option.