Originally posted by VacationMan
B) Watch out for the "Flag People".... For those of you who don't know, MANY TOUR GROUPS USE THE ALL-STAR RESORTS. Frequently ( on at least 3 sperate trips to disney spread over 2 years) we have been in a "building" of the allstars with a tour group of 12-15 year old South American Girls... Yikes... what a PAIN. Loud, obnoxious, non-caring kids.... :wave: Don't Get me wrong.... no "profiling" or biggotry here... but over multiple years the SAME thing... this is/was a trend, and an obvious one ... not a one time shot :wave: This made the evenings VERY LOUD and difficult for US to relax (with kids), and frankly the grounds of the building were noticably littered and beat up as opposed to other trips to Allstars.... These are the same tour groups that roam the parks with "Flags", or "Umbrellas"... that typically crush into rides.
Seems to me you ran into one of the dreaded Brazilian tour groups... :lol: Interesting, because, to my knowledge, they don't usually stay in-property, since even the Value resorts can get send the tour packages' prices through the roof.
Well, I guess I should apologize in the name of my compatriots, even though I stopped going to WDW through groups for that very reason. But, as I've stated before in some thread, I think I should say it again. Most of those young kids are probably in the first and only trip of thei rlives, at least to the US, and WDW scpecifically. Most of them are 15 years olds, and that birthday equals to the American sweet 16. Usually, they have to choose between a huge party or WDW, and of course they choose the trip. In many cases, the WHOLE family has to cheap in, and by whole family I mean uncles, aunts, grandparents... Are we poor? I don't know, I'd say we have cifferent classes as every other country, but dollar rates make WDW a really difficult and coveted dream.
Understand, I'm not defending them at all. During my time as a CM I used to hide my nametag when I spotted the groups because they'd make such a fuss for seeing a Brazilian working there that it was literally impossible to keep working. All I'm trying to do here is to show you all the other side of the group reality. And in fact, if you really pay attention on your next trip, you'll see that there are fewer groups and in less number. That's not only 9/11's fault, but also the hard economic time we're facing down here.
Bottom line: yes, they're obnoxious, loud and behave really bad, cutting in lines and offending people. So just do what I do, turn around and go to some other attraction. They usually follow a scpecific pattern, hitting the huge rides early in the morning. Use Fastpass, I doubt they're doing it. As for the resorts, yeah, I imagine how hard it must've been for your kids to sleep. But remember you're on WDW, you'll find a way to put into those bad things behind.
Oh, and sorry for the long rant-post!

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