Giss Neric
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When I saw the Wish float, I immediately thought of this, The trees definitely makes it bigger but it's one of those smaller floats
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MK All-New Nighttime Parade Disney Starlight Set to Debut at Magic Kingdom in 2025
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Gusey
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Because of how old Festival of Fantasy is, this will be the first WDW parade to feature Moana, Coco, Wish and a designated float for Frozen rather than the last minute addition it had on FoF
SoFloMagic
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For sure. The coco one also seems similar to magic happens.
SpectroMickey85
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Disney has shared a new look at the Wish float:
This and Coco are my favorites so far.
So many Disney movies struggled in their initial run and only found an audience (and made a profit) in time, through reissues, home video, and Disney Parks showcasing them
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Absolutely this. Disney plays the long game with its properties and many longtime popular characters started in “bombs” of their own. The internet has gifted us a large group of numbskulls that are hyper focused on box office numbers, and their own opinions as immutable fact. If you’ve reduced art to nothing more than how much money it generates, then I feel very sorry for you.
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Absolutely this. Disney plays the long game with its properties and many longtime popular characters started in “bombs” of their own. The internet has gifted us a large group of numbskulls that are hyper focused on box office numbers, and their own opinions as immutable fact. If you’ve reduced art to nothing more than how much money it generates, then I feel very sorry for you.
Animaniac93-98
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Context for why Alice was prominently featured in a Disney parade from the 1970s
While the movie did flop in 1951, by the late 60s it had developed a following not for reasons Disney liked, but by the time the movie was re-released to theaters in 1974 they were like "sure, whatever..."
Unlike “Fantasia” and “Alice in Wonderland,” which were successfully reissued in the mid‐70's, when college students used them to supplement drug experiences and the smell of marijuana was as thick as incense in the theaters, “Sleeping Beauty” is apparently being used as a romantic, rather than a psychedelic, “high.”
New York Times, September 17 1979
Animaniac93-98
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Looks like some revisionist history in this thread.
Wish being featured in this parade reminds me of how The Black Cauldron was a big part of The Cinderella Castle Mystery Tour when it opened in 1986. That was the year Black Cauldron was due for release in Japan and I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time to include the upcoming movie as a tie in.
These things take many years to develop. A new night time parade has been rumored for MK for a long time now, at one point supposedly for the park's 50th anniversary.
We know there were high expectations for Wish, a movie that was only released about 16 months ago, and there's no way 2, 3, 5 years ago that Disney knew how it would ultimately fare.
It's inclusion here is not part of some master plan to nurture the property. It's just dumb luck that they decided to build a float for a flop and likely figured there's no sense trying to redesign something else from scratch.
Movies like Fantasia, Alice, Sleeping Beauty took literal DECADES to develop a following, fueled in no small part by theatrical re-releases and home video, things that no longer exists but were a highly important part of the Disney profit and distribution machine. Wish won't benefit from that for the same reasons Treasure Planet and Atlantis didn't either.
Maybe one day people will look back at Wish and re-evaluate the movie, but it's far too early to know if it will. The streaming numbers don't suggest that's the case either. Speaking of The Black Cauldron, Wish's domestic box office was comparable when you adjust for ticket price inflation from 1985.
As someone who is sick of the same half-dozen Disney/Pixar movies being used for everything in the parks, I'm not mad Wish is featured here. Better that than Toy Story again. When Pete's Dragon was added to the Electrical Parade in 1977 nobody knew it would disappoint either, but it became a staple of the experience and millions have been introduced to the character and songs from that parade since. Intentional or not, you get good publicity from being in a long running Disney parade.
Wish being featured in this parade reminds me of how The Black Cauldron was a big part of The Cinderella Castle Mystery Tour when it opened in 1986. That was the year Black Cauldron was due for release in Japan and I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time to include the upcoming movie as a tie in.
These things take many years to develop. A new night time parade has been rumored for MK for a long time now, at one point supposedly for the park's 50th anniversary.
We know there were high expectations for Wish, a movie that was only released about 16 months ago, and there's no way 2, 3, 5 years ago that Disney knew how it would ultimately fare.
It's inclusion here is not part of some master plan to nurture the property. It's just dumb luck that they decided to build a float for a flop and likely figured there's no sense trying to redesign something else from scratch.
Movies like Fantasia, Alice, Sleeping Beauty took literal DECADES to develop a following, fueled in no small part by theatrical re-releases and home video, things that no longer exists but were a highly important part of the Disney profit and distribution machine. Wish won't benefit from that for the same reasons Treasure Planet and Atlantis didn't either.
Maybe one day people will look back at Wish and re-evaluate the movie, but it's far too early to know if it will. The streaming numbers don't suggest that's the case either. Speaking of The Black Cauldron, Wish's domestic box office was comparable when you adjust for ticket price inflation from 1985.
As someone who is sick of the same half-dozen Disney/Pixar movies being used for everything in the parks, I'm not mad Wish is featured here. Better that than Toy Story again. When Pete's Dragon was added to the Electrical Parade in 1977 nobody knew it would disappoint either, but it became a staple of the experience and millions have been introduced to the character and songs from that parade since. Intentional or not, you get good publicity from being in a long running Disney parade.
Agent H
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I don’t think anyone was saying it was part of some master plan to nurture the ip. I think the people who liked the movie were happy to see it. Agree on everything else.
Wrong Park but didn't Guests enjoy Wish's SSE Show?
Agent H
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I don’t have any data on this but speaking from personal experience it was pretty good and the spaceship earth nighttime lighting is one of the few aspects of the Epcot overhaul to receive near unanimous praise.
SoFloMagic
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This 100%
Every time I see either fireworks show and have to listen to an instrumental "you've got a friend in me" for the one millionth time, I get ed. Any then I hear all the tourists oohing and ahhing at it and I guess I get it.
But I feel like they used to make cool things that many people will enjoy, not just give them exactly what they're looking for. We'll see if this can avoid the toy story/go the distance/tangled script they've been using
Agent H
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For me it’s not the fireworks shows that are the problem. I get that. It’s not any different from when they did the same thing with the movies from the 90s. What kinda bothers me is that even when an ip already has a significant (and deserved) presence yet they continue to operate other smaller attractions based on the same ip. Example the frozen mermaid and beauty and the beast shows in Hollywood Studios.
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TTA94
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If Wish is a medium size float like this I am wonder if Frozen will be as well. The concept art told us nothing so either it will be a smaller size float or they just were not ready to reveal it yet. My hope is a large size float since Elsa and Anna’s presence in FoF is hardly anything.
Agent H
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Yeah it was kinda bad luck for Disney that they designed the parade before most of their biggest modern day hits came out l
raymusiccity
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All of the floats are probably repurposed from earlier parades. They've been tucked away for years to avoid these kind of comparisons. !
MagicHappens1971
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There’s really not many floats for them to do this with. MSEP never belonged to WDW and was shipped back to Disneyland. Spectro was destroyed, and all of the other old parades were stripped/retrofitted for Festival of Fantasy/parts.
The float they were referencing is from Magic Happens which I believe is still in tact at Disneyland .
joanna71985
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eh, I doubt it
