Adventure Land Opening at 10 a.m.

DMC-12

It's HarmonioUS, NOT HarmoniYOU.
Originally posted by DisneyInsider
For some reason I don't think of a one hour delayed opening killing the magic. You will still get to ride the attractions, just think they could have decided to open the MK at 10 everyday, but instead it is just one land.

Still... Its pretty lame... and yes... I think its killing the magic a bit.. its just another penny pinching move by the top brass... ugh

I always work from Adventureland first in a clockwise fashion to Tomorrowland. :) :wave:
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
Original Poster
makes a difference

Originally posted by DisneyInsider
Our Keys to the Kingdom tour guide was explaining to us how we are a right handed society. When walking in, most walk on the right of main street, which is why the Bakery is there (forgot breakfast?). Then people usually go towards tomorrowland that way (unless the have a specific agenda). So that makes Adventureland the least crowded land early in the morning (according to Disney thinking).

Adventureland is really quiet until 10, it won't really make a difference.

Makes a big difference if that is where you have gone first for the past 20 years of going to Disney.......tradition is a part of Magic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Goofyfanatic

New Member
Count ,e as another that begins with Adventureland and ends with Tomorrowland...I Know where not the only 3 to...everytime I have been to MK there have been waits for the PotC and JC. perhaps not as long as later in the afternoon, but it's not like Future World at epcot...I understand the attration closing by 6...there is only a couple of attraction that sill have people visiting after that time and they keep those attractions open.
 

DisneyJill

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I always start in Adventureland and work my way around. The last time I was there, I was also disappointed that the Adventureland stores were closing at 6:30 pm when the MK was open until 10. It made Adventureland seem very deserted at an early hour.
 

MKCustodial

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Originally posted by DisneyJill
I always start in Adventureland and work my way around. The last time I was there, I was also disappointed that the Adventureland stores were closing at 6:30 pm when the MK was open until 10. It made Adventureland seem very deserted at an early hour.

Exactly. That's been happening a lot with Disney. They're making bad decisions and then try blaming the public for the bad results of their bad decisions. :brick:
 

ISTCrew20

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Well this just screws up my scedule entirely :lol: ..Imnot gonna complain, and it is only an hour later, but, I did enjoy a morning trip on pirates while waiting for my Splash Fastpass. Keep in mind, if the park opened at 9, and even if just Fantasyland opened with the park, people would still be just coming in, or seeing the charaters on Main Street, so by the time they get up to the hub, its maybe a 10 min. wait for Adventureland to open. But, I hate walking thru a WDW park and seeing things shuttered, it just doesnt match, and makes me sad, that the Mcdonalds french fry cart doesnt open unless that certain CM decides to come to work:(
 

ogryn

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Well, this is going to lead to a re-think (even re-print) of a lot of "Brit's Guides To Orlando" books.

They all say you should work starting on the left, and if a queue splits take the left line. Because America drives on the RHS, they naturally take the RHS queue.

Bad idea though. They run out of hours to take away from the closing end of the day, so they start at the beginning. I am waiting for the decision to open Fantasy land at Midday, just because the management think all the guests are still at the front of the park.
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
Original Poster
Bright Idea

Im wondering if WDW is just going to send a self addressed stamped envelope with a letter stating "We were really looking forward to you joining us at WDW, but we have decided to make a change to assist in managing the crowds at our parks. We are going to innitiate a you pay, but dont play policy. Just enclose a check in the amount of the park hopper ticket you were going to purchase, and just stay at home. This way we continue to make money, but dont have to deal with the messy crowd thing.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

burbur

New Member
it's an hour. not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. and it could be worse, they could shutter a ride seasonally or only have it open on the weekends (see the golden zypher at dca for an example of that).
 
Originally posted by Marijil
another annoying example of taking away from guests without giving back....i thought things were better now, attendance wise and all...........this stinks

Taking away from and not giving anything back??? Then don't even bother going to the parks then, if thats what you think...:mad:
 

Marijil

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Originally posted by ArchiDanDisney
Taking away from and not giving anything back??? Then don't even bother going to the parks then, if thats what you think...:mad:

Oh I'm sorry forgive me for opening my mouth, i guess the cutbacks arent really taking away....i should just be a good boy and be thankful for the right to pay more for less:veryconfu
 
Originally posted by Marijil
Oh I'm sorry forgive me for opening my mouth, i guess the cutbacks arent really taking away....i should just be a good boy and be thankful for the right to pay more for less:veryconfu

Just seems like a "gimme gimme gimme" attitude...
 

Pioneer Hall

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Just think if they decided to {gulp} open the entire park at 10 am instead of 9. Instead of complaining about this you should be thankful they didn't take an Epcot approach with this.
 

Marijil

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by DisneyInsider
Just think if they decided to {gulp} open the entire park at 10 am instead of 9. Instead of complaining about this you should be thankful they didn't take an Epcot approach with this.

so what your saying is that i should just be happy that they didnt take more away???
 

Pioneer Hall

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Originally posted by Marijil
so what your saying is that i should just be happy that they didnt take more away???

I'm saying change will happen. Whether you like it or not things are going to change. Be happy that you aren't getting your entire schedule changed, only a small part of it. If you plan your vacation to the slightest detail where Adventureland opening an hour later will ruin your trip, then what's the fun of a vacation? What is the point of going if you are going to plan your vacation down to the second? If you were able to do Adventureland before 10 in the past now you will get a chance to try a new land before 10. I don't see how this 60 minutes of your vacation is going to totally alter it. You are talking about 1 hour, 60 minutes, 3600 seconds. If you go and ride splash mountain and thunder mountain you can be off those by ten and then go to Advetureland. Sometimes our traditions have to end whether we like them or not.

But complaining about this won't help. Truthfully if you go write to Disney about this or complain to City Hall, they won't care. It is a miniscule situation compared to the rest of their operations. Trust me it could be a lot worse, look at what we go over in tomorrowland with the seasonal attractions. What I am saying is be grateful it isn't worse.
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
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Original Poster
I see the light

My bad.....Thank you for opening my favorite land an hour later so I get to stand in longer lines for my favorite ride. What was I thinking about, voicing my opinion and everything. Next time when I go to make a point, I will just stuff a Mickey Mouse Ice Cream Bar in it and stand there and look stupid.....
 

niteobsrvr

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by Marijil
another annoying example of taking away from guests without giving back....i thought things were better now, attendance wise and all...........this stinks

You get what you pay for, plain and simple. Its jsut like buying dog food. A few years back a 5lb bag cost 5 bucks as an example. The consumer is happy with this 5 dollar price. The company however needs to increase the price due to higher operating costs. If they increase the price sales will go down so instead they just put 4lbs of dog food in the bag and solve the problem that way. Most consumers don't eve notice right away when this happens. At least Disney is up front about it.

Apparently, because attendance has dropped, Disney feels the admission price should be higher in order to make up lost revenue. SInce they cant raise the price to cover the lost revenue right now, they do what they can like shave an hour off here or there.

It is the slower time of the year and realistically speaking the vast majority of guest will not miss the area for one hour. Of course the Disney fanatics will, but the average guest wont. This is a much better solution than closing an entire ride or attraction for the off season.
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
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cost cutting

But one would think that they would cut back in areas outside of the main reason people come to WDW. People come to go to the parks. They should have each and every minute the park is open. Seems to me it would be more practicle to cut back seasonally on the number of resorts that are open, i.e, shut down one of the allstars, etc. Its not that much of a big deal in the grand scheme of things, and it wont ruin my trip (42 days to lift off :sohappy: ) but it just seems there iare should be so many other ways to take a pound out of the bag.....
 

niteobsrvr

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Re: cost cutting

Originally posted by hakunamatata
But one would think that they would cut back in areas outside of the main reason people come to WDW. People come to go to the parks. They should have each and every minute the park is open. Seems to me it would be more practicle to cut back seasonally on the number of resorts that are open, i.e, shut down one of the allstars, etc. Its not that much of a big deal in the grand scheme of things, and it wont ruin my trip (42 days to lift off :sohappy: ) but it just seems there iare should be so many other ways to take a pound out of the bag.....

Over the last 2 years, Disney has shaved costs in non-revenue producing areas as much as they can. Many positions have been vacated due to attrition and have not been filled. Other positions have been eliminated due to changes in operating efficiency and procedural changes.

Two resorts are closed, Port Orleans French Quarter and the DIsney Institute. Also, Pop Century has had its opening delayed over two years.

Many functions at the resort that are not a part of the core business have been contracted out. Things like some lawn maintenance/horticulture and painting are now being performed by vendors who do as equally or better of a job than Disney's own cast members at a lower cost to the company.

The WDW resort is trying to get back to what it does best and that is entertain people in a family friendly and safe environment. To that end, they don't need to concentrate huge amounts of resources and effort on things that don't directly result in the entertainment of the guests. Unfortunately, this is not an easy or quick process. The company has had 32 years to let things grow to a point of being inefficient from a management and cost perspective.

As more of these inefficiencies are eliminated and Americans begin to visit WDW in droves like they did in the late 90's (all year roundm not just peak times), you will see the operating reductions that directly impact the guest go away.
 

DMC-12

It's HarmonioUS, NOT HarmoniYOU.
Re: Re: cost cutting

Originally posted by niteobsrvr
Over the last 2 years, Disney has shaved costs in non-revenue producing areas as much as they can. Many positions have been vacated due to attrition and have not been filled. Other positions have been eliminated due to changes in operating efficiency and procedural changes.

Two resorts are closed, Port Orleans French Quarter and the DIsney Institute. Also, Pop Century has had its opening delayed over two years.

The WDW resort is trying to get back to what it does best and that is entertain people in a family friendly and safe environment. To that end, they don't need to concentrate huge amounts of resources and effort on things that don't directly result in the entertainment of the guests. Unfortunately, this is not an easy or quick process. The company has had 32 years to let things grow to a point of being inefficient from a management and cost perspective.

As more of these inefficiencies are eliminated and Americans begin to visit WDW in droves like they did in the late 90's (all year roundm not just peak times), you will see the operating reductions that directly impact the guest go away.

Yes Yes yes... and at the same time... Iger said Yesterday:

"Disney, which is also the world's largest theme park operator in the world, saw travel to its resorts improving, Iger said. "The marketplace is coming back gradually but consistently," he said"

Ugh... I am so confused

:hammer: :lol: :hammer: :confused: :lol:
 

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