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Accident at WDW kills CM
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Pixie Duster
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My mom just called me about this wow! I feel so bad for the CM's family and friends. This has never happened before, in terms of fatality.
Timekeeper
Well-Known Member
Failing the Rorschach Test
They do.
Consider this - Every state in the U.S. requires that people pass a driving test in order to acquire a driver's license. But that doesn't prevent thousands of car accidents and deaths as a result of: drivers' negligence, mechanical malfunctions (street lights), vehicle malfunctions (Firestone), and plain freak accidents.
20/20 (or similar news program) reported on a interesting psychological study on something called "unintentional blindness." Viewers at home were able to participate in an experiment illustrating the effect. The point is, when you "over-focus" on one thing, you can easily miss something else.
When pilots park airplanes, they focus on the tarmac crew directing their movement. There could easily be someone under the plane in the path of the tires, but that's not in their field of vision.
Tk
They do.
Consider this - Every state in the U.S. requires that people pass a driving test in order to acquire a driver's license. But that doesn't prevent thousands of car accidents and deaths as a result of: drivers' negligence, mechanical malfunctions (street lights), vehicle malfunctions (Firestone), and plain freak accidents.
20/20 (or similar news program) reported on a interesting psychological study on something called "unintentional blindness." Viewers at home were able to participate in an experiment illustrating the effect. The point is, when you "over-focus" on one thing, you can easily miss something else.
When pilots park airplanes, they focus on the tarmac crew directing their movement. There could easily be someone under the plane in the path of the tires, but that's not in their field of vision.
Tk
MouseMadness
Well-Known Member
Re: Failing the Rorschach Test
Excellent point.
Excellent point.
kanepresten
New Member
Driver training
In regards to disney giving driver tests. ALL disney float drivers go through several days of training in order to be approved to drive any sort of float. And u do not just start with the big floats. Each driver works his way up after consistently proving his/her abilities in each lower classification. BEginning with the smallest floats in spectro, which take several days to be approved. From there a driver must prove that he can drive theses floats well (several months of actually driving in parade) befiore he can be selected tomove on to level 2. Which entails similar training. THen they can move on to level 3, still spectro floats. these are the biggest spectro floats. After that, a driver can qualify to drive "big boys," the floats used to in the day parade. But you can ONLY be considered to drive a big boy if u have proven your abilities in LEvel one two and three. So rest assured, a driver of a day parade float will have been around and driving floats for quite some time... they KNOW what they are doing. And b/c drivers who drive big boys have been around for so long, odds are they are trained as coordinators, which require you to have a chauffers license. so not only will they have had YEARS of training as a float driver, they also are usually certiied to drive things like busses/limos/etc. Just clearing that up. Disney does not let just anyone drive a float, especuially not a HUGE float like that. They know what they are doing.
KP
In regards to disney giving driver tests. ALL disney float drivers go through several days of training in order to be approved to drive any sort of float. And u do not just start with the big floats. Each driver works his way up after consistently proving his/her abilities in each lower classification. BEginning with the smallest floats in spectro, which take several days to be approved. From there a driver must prove that he can drive theses floats well (several months of actually driving in parade) befiore he can be selected tomove on to level 2. Which entails similar training. THen they can move on to level 3, still spectro floats. these are the biggest spectro floats. After that, a driver can qualify to drive "big boys," the floats used to in the day parade. But you can ONLY be considered to drive a big boy if u have proven your abilities in LEvel one two and three. So rest assured, a driver of a day parade float will have been around and driving floats for quite some time... they KNOW what they are doing. And b/c drivers who drive big boys have been around for so long, odds are they are trained as coordinators, which require you to have a chauffers license. so not only will they have had YEARS of training as a float driver, they also are usually certiied to drive things like busses/limos/etc. Just clearing that up. Disney does not let just anyone drive a float, especuially not a HUGE float like that. They know what they are doing.
KP
Atta83
Well-Known Member
This is horrible that this event happened. For you saying that it is the parade drivers float should be ashamed of yourself. It is the responsibility for the performer to be aware of what is around. This is unfortunate that this happend and all. Things happen. I know some might bash me on this but bash away I will defend myself, but maybe this happened for a reason to open the eyes of the employess and even the people that are there to make sure things are ok and all the maybe more saftey should be there..
My heart and prayers go out to the friends and family who knew this cast member.....you will be missed............and will forever be a castmember..................
Atta
My heart and prayers go out to the friends and family who knew this cast member.....you will be missed............and will forever be a castmember..................
Atta
Maria
New Member
Re: Failing the Rorschach Test
That´s what I was thinking... I have never noticed where the person driving a float is... so well hidden that I don´t think the driver can see all that is around him. IMHO, it´s the job of the 'escorts' and guests themselves to take care of clearing and not being in the float´s way.
That´s what I was thinking... I have never noticed where the person driving a float is... so well hidden that I don´t think the driver can see all that is around him. IMHO, it´s the job of the 'escorts' and guests themselves to take care of clearing and not being in the float´s way.
darthdarrel
New Member
This is sad indeed, I will be praying for the CM`s family and friends!
I just watched the news, and they gave a description of the incident..
it was backstage, out of guest view..
as the parade was stepping off, a costumed character preparing to step off with the following parade unit was struck and run over by the float.
OSHA, Disney, and OC Sheriffs are investigating.
Commentary time... while unfortunate, this was probably a wrong place/time death.
it was backstage, out of guest view..
as the parade was stepping off, a costumed character preparing to step off with the following parade unit was struck and run over by the float.
OSHA, Disney, and OC Sheriffs are investigating.
Commentary time... while unfortunate, this was probably a wrong place/time death.
Dizparks
Member
They just had this report on news 4 here in St. Louis. What a horrible tragedy, my heart goes out to that CM's family. I have a question though, I'm not sure if it is true but they said that the park was closed after this happened. Just wondering if anybody knows if the park was closed. I just don't see them closing the park for this.
cherrynegra
Well-Known Member
God, my condolences to the friends and family of the CM who passed away. Things are just not going well at the Magic Kingdom.
agdbeanie
New Member
In the picture shown on here: (http://www.local6.com/news/2840397/detail.html)
That yellow line is actually right by where the train passes. The part below the yellow line is considered "on stage" meaning it's in view of guests and the part above is "off stage." I just took the Keys to the Kingdom tour in December and that's the exact place where they took us back stage to see the floats...
The trains were probably shut down b/c they pass right by there.
That yellow line is actually right by where the train passes. The part below the yellow line is considered "on stage" meaning it's in view of guests and the part above is "off stage." I just took the Keys to the Kingdom tour in December and that's the exact place where they took us back stage to see the floats...
The trains were probably shut down b/c they pass right by there.
TinkerBell9988
Well-Known Member
I am in shock. My prayers go out to the CM's family, friends, and co workers... Wow... 
Timekeeper
Well-Known Member
News Choppers
Just out of curiosity, if the airspace above WDW is restricted (and I'm assuming such restrictions are enforced), how is it that these news choppers are right there above the Magic Kingdom - close enough to get shots of the parade floats?
Aren't they violating the forementioned security policy?
Tk
Just out of curiosity, if the airspace above WDW is restricted (and I'm assuming such restrictions are enforced), how is it that these news choppers are right there above the Magic Kingdom - close enough to get shots of the parade floats?
Aren't they violating the forementioned security policy?
Tk
PhotoDave219
Well-Known Member
The Temporary Flight restriction extends only to 3000 feet. So, no theyre not.
I have a link to the FAA's page that details the TFR if you do a search on it.
I have a link to the FAA's page that details the TFR if you do a search on it.