A surprising omission?

Stripes

Stripes

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G00fyDad said:
Actually, that's a misconception fostered by Apple. More people own Android devices than Apple. However, more people own Apple than Samsung. More own Apple than Windows phones. It's already been stated by the media that Apple phones have more broken screens than any other manufacturer.
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More people have more Android phones GLOBALLY. There are a lot of people in the world that can't afford a $650 iPhone or even a $200 Android. Android has more devices at wide-ranging price points for people in India, South America, or Africa, etc. In developed countries you'll find that Apple has a fairly strong lead over Android.
 
Master Yoda

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Master Yoda

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DoubleJ21 said:
This was taken just before a refresh cycle, the data is in Android's favor. Stil, my only point is that those who have the money tend to buy iPhones. A simple look at Google Play vs App Store revenues/downloads will tell you that.
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Wrong again.

While the App store does make more revenue that Google play, Google play has more downloads. The number of downloads is a much more accurate measure of who is using what OS.

All more revenue with less products sold tells us is that Apple is charging more for a similar product.

http://9to5mac.com/2016/01/20/app-store-ios-downloads-vs-android-revenue/
 
Stripes

Stripes

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Master Yoda said:
Wrong again.

While the App store does make more revenue that Google play, Google play has more downloads. The number of downloads is a much more accurate measure of who is using what OS.

All more revenue with less products sold tells us is that Apple is charging more for a similar product.

http://9to5mac.com/2016/01/20/app-store-ios-downloads-vs-android-revenue/
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That's why I said revenues/downloads. That's a ratio for you. Further, Apple doesn't set the price and neither does Google. The developers do and they always charge the same amount across platforms for the same app. What it tells us is that consumers with a higher disposable income tend to purchase Apple devices. This has been quantified and studied by a number of research institutions, and all have found that to be the case.

https://www.comscore.com/Insights/D...Income-Engage-More-on-Apps-than-Android-Users
 
Master Yoda

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DoubleJ21 said:
That's why I said revenues/downloads. That's a ratio for you. Further, Apple doesn't set the price and neither does Google. The developers do and they always charge the same amount across platforms for the same app. What it tells us is that consumers with a higher disposable income tend to purchase Apple devices. This has been quantified and studied by a number of research institutions, and all have found that to be the case.
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It still does not change the fact that there are more Andriod devices in the US and other "developed" countries than there are iOS devices which was where this entire thing started.

DoubleJ21 said:
More people have more Android phones GLOBALLY. There are a lot of people in the world that can't afford a $650 iPhone or even a $200 Android. Android has more devices at wide-ranging price points for people in India, South America, or Africa, etc. In developed countries you'll find that Apple has a fairly strong lead over Android.
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Can you show me data on more than one developed country having more iOS devices than Android?
 
Stripes

Stripes

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Master Yoda said:
It still does not change the fact that there are more Andriod devices in the US and other "developed" countries than there are iOS devices which was where this entire thing started.



Can you show me data on more than one developed country having more iOS devices than Android?
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I concede that that accusation was rooted in earlier statistics. The smartphone battle has followed the same path as Mac (macOS) vs PC (Windows). Apple is the single largest OEM (Smartphones) by quite a large margin, however the fact that the rest of the OEMs use Android and Apple can't maintain a 50+% market share due the the highly competitive nature of this market means that an OS used by 1 company can't possibly be higher than one used by hundreds. This is similar to a comparison between Volkswagen (Android) and Ferrari(iOS). Volkswagen makes VW Beetles, they also make Bugatti. Ferrari makes Ferrari, that's it. Obviously VW has a higher market share, but that's not exactly a fair comparison.

But I don't care. You're happy, I'm happy. Competition is healthy for both of us. Hope you have a fantastic day!
 
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GoofGoof

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Who cares. It's a phone. It's great until you drop it in the toilet. Then it doesn't matter if it's an Apple or Android, unless you have one of those waterproof cases you are out of luck - literally:):):)
 
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This thread has evolved into apple vs this or that. I think we should be discussing the type of stores in general. I am not an apple fan boy or owner of apple products but at least it would give me something to walk into that are not all designer clothes, candy shoppes or jewelery stores. At the risk of sounding politically incorrect I am an regular old fashioned 55 year old male and none of this appeals to me likely by design. My wife and daughters love it but I am bored.

Don't get me wrong I still love the restaurants, architecture and such but if not for my wife I would not ever spend a dime in any of the new stores. They need some "guy stores".
 
ChrisM

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I've always assumed that both Apple and Disney were game to hammer out a deal, but Apple has been doubling down on their stores exhibiting "unique" architecture. Disney probably told them they would be restricted in exterior design to fit in with the larger architectural themes of DS and Apple told them to pound sand.
 
lazyboy97o

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ChrisM said:
I've always assumed that both Apple and Disney were game to hammer out a deal, but Apple has been doubling down on their stores exhibiting "unique" architecture. Disney probably told them they would be restricted in exterior design to fit in with the larger architectural themes of DS and Apple told them to pound sand.
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Higher than market rents and a cut of revenue were probably far bigger issues. Apple could have pursued a pad where the build everything like The Edison, Walt's, STK, Planet Hollywood or Coca-Cola if they were very concerned about the architecture.
 
Innkeeper's Club

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Honestly I can't see an Apple Store opening at Disney Springs for these reasons.

There is already 2 Apple Stores in the Orlando area at the Florida Mall and The Mall at Millenia. So why would any Orlando locals want to drive into WDW to visit one?

Assuming Orlando locals would not want to go there what use would it be for the tourists who visit WDW? The only thing I can think of is if they accidently drop their iPhones and crack the screen, so they need to get it replaced and it's a lot easier than going to their locations I already mentioned.

Finally WDW already sells their own designed iPhone cases at virtually all their own stores across WDW property, so would Apple even sell them at their own store in Disney Springs?
 
lazyboy97o

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Innkeeper's Club said:
Honestly I can't see an Apple Store opening at Disney Springs for these reasons.

There is already 2 Apple Stores in the Orlando area at the Florida Mall and The Mall at Millenia. So why would any Orlando locals want to drive into WDW to visit one?

Assuming Orlando locals would not want to go there what use would it be for the tourists who visit WDW? The only thing I can think of is if they accidently drop their iPhones and crack the screen, so they need to get it replaced and it's a lot easier than going to their locations I already mentioned.

Finally WDW already sells their own designed iPhone cases at virtually all their own stores across WDW property, so would Apple even sell them at their own store in Disney Springs?
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Apple was interested in Disney Springs so hypothesizing why it wouldn't make sense is pointless. Apple would not be the first brand represented nearby, including a couple who are literally across I-4. You also completely ignored international visitors interested in purchasing goods at lower prices.
 
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Innkeeper's Club said:
Honestly I can't see an Apple Store opening at Disney Springs for these reasons.

There is already 2 Apple Stores in the Orlando area at the Florida Mall and The Mall at Millenia. So why would any Orlando locals want to drive into WDW to visit one?

Assuming Orlando locals would not want to go there what use would it be for the tourists who visit WDW? The only thing I can think of is if they accidently drop their iPhones and crack the screen, so they need to get it replaced and it's a lot easier than going to their locations I already mentioned.

Finally WDW already sells their own designed iPhone cases at virtually all their own stores across WDW property, so would Apple even sell them at their own store in Disney Springs?
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The two locations in Orlando are swamped with tourists. Not to mention that it's a good drive to either of those malls from a lot of the areas locals live.
 
Master Yoda

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Innkeeper's Club said:
Honestly I can't see an Apple Store opening at Disney Springs for these reasons.

There is already 2 Apple Stores in the Orlando area at the Florida Mall and The Mall at Millenia. So why would any Orlando locals want to drive into WDW to visit one?

Assuming Orlando locals would not want to go there what use would it be for the tourists who visit WDW? The only thing I can think of is if they accidently drop their iPhones and crack the screen, so they need to get it replaced and it's a lot easier than going to their locations I already mentioned.

Finally WDW already sells their own designed iPhone cases at virtually all their own stores across WDW property, so would Apple even sell them at their own store in Disney Springs?
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I can think of about 200,000 reasons why one would work.

At any given moment in the Orlando/Kissimmee/Bay Lake area there are more than 200,000 people that are Apple customers in one way or another. A good chunk of which are people away from home, unfamiliar with the area and just need their iSomething fixed or replaced as quickly as possible so they can get back to their vacation.

Even if you just look at WDW alone, you have in excess of 40k-50k Apple customers on Disney property every day.

That is a pretty sizable customer base to be serviced by only 2 stores, the closest of which is 12 miles away.
 

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