A Spirited Valentine ...

flynnibus

flynnibus

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Nj4mwc said:
Take a look at what Vince McMahon has done with the WWE network, this what what sports will go to eventually, They are still quite a few years away from dropping broadcast tv but that is the ultimate goal of the network. NFL , MLB , NHL all of them are watching carefully as subscriber count climbs, as Eagon so correctly predicted back in the 80's print is dead I'm calling it now ESPN is dead
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Customers will eventually learn they do not want to pay individually for every single show they watch... and will look to aggregators.. (aka networks). And not every sport will have enough of a draw to have their own network. People will pool resources and audiences (aka networks) to reach critical mass to make the platform viable. So while some big ones will be able to go out on their own (like.. an HBO) the B and C tier guys will not and will continue to be carrier by syndicating, producing, and aggregating networks.
 
Nj4mwc

Nj4mwc

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flynnibus said:
Customers will eventually learn they do not want to pay individually for every single show they watch... and will look to aggregators.. (aka networks). And not every sport will have enough of a draw to have their own network. People will pool resources and audiences (aka networks) to reach critical mass to make the platform viable. So while some big ones will be able to go out on their own (like.. an HBO) the B and C tier guys will not and will continue to be carrier by syndicating, producing, and aggregating networks.
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I agree, Netflix style companies will be the future of networks but as for sports, I think all the big ones will pull off being able to have their own network
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

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EricsBiscuit said:
While share repurchases are not exactly desirable from our perspective, they are better than the cash sitting there. You have to look at it from a public company's perspective: they (management) are accountable to the chairman who's accountable to the board who are accountable to the shareholders. The management believes that they are returning the most value to the shareholders through dividends and share repurchases than only using their profits to invest in the company. If you over invest then things like DLP happen and you will never make any money even after amaturization. After so many dollars your ROI plunges and you're better off directly giving the money to the shareholders.
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A mountain of cash has not hurt AAPL, GOOG,CSCO or BERK the least it allows them to do what needs to be done without dancing on the edge of a knife as DIS is doing.
 
jakeman

jakeman

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ford91exploder said:
In other news about the potential real market for ESPN

Only 6% of households would be willing to pay 20 bucks for ESPN. Yup theres a great business


http://www.outkickthecoverage.com/2016/01/14/only-6-of-consumers-would-pay-20-a-month-for-espn
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Netflix is like $14 a month and has literally millions of hours of programming.

Of course the average consumer isn't going to want to pay $20 for sports programming that will occasionally cover their team.

It's the very definition of a straw man argument.
 
asianway

asianway

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flynnibus

flynnibus

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Absimilliard

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Nj4mwc said:
Of course developmentally disabled people wouldn't understand the post was about the content creators want to control content distribution and the current pioneer in live event streaming is being carefully watched by the major sports networks while grown men who wish their glory day wasn't 8th grade PEsoftball confess their love for other grown men who play a children's game
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I guess since WWE is shown on NBC owned networks and NBC-Universal cross promoted Wrestlemania this year in Orlando, he has to be against WWE and he has to reduce the people who enjoy it down to "Developmentally Disabled People and Immature Juveniles".

Would you put the same label on the guests who visit Tokyo Disney, dress up as Disney characters, wait 2 hours in line to meet Duffy and buy so much merchandise they make OLC rich?
 
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Absimilliard

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In a surprising and fun move, Disneyland Paris started soft openings of Hyperspace Mountain August 29th... with a twist. As they had already sold tickets for two special events on May 5th and 6th with the promise of the first ever rides on Hyperspace Mountain, they found a different way to still have soft openings.

Basically, the whole show was turned off and the ride is in the dark with the Mission 2 soundtrack from Michael Giacchino playing. It allowed guests to experience the new comfortable trains and we finally saw close up pictures of the new cars.

I am fully impressed by how they look and I have a suspicion Hyperspace Mountain is not definitive and we will soon see the return of De la Terre a la Lune.

Look familiar?
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(this picture come from a Space Mountain fan facebook page.)

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Notice the Moon Archer engraved on the soft restraint. If this is not a reference to the original Discovery Mountain/Space Mountain De la Terre a la Lune, I don't know is!

P.S. If the replacement music would have been the original De la Terre a la Lune soundtrack, I'd be in Paris right now writing this message!
 
HMF

HMF

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Absimilliard said:
In a surprising and fun move, Disneyland Paris started soft openings of Hyperspace Mountain August 29th... with a twist. As they had already sold tickets for two special events on May 5th and 6th with the promise of the first ever rides on Hyperspace Mountain, they found a different way to still have soft openings.

Basically, the whole show was turned off and the ride is in the dark with the Mission 2 soundtrack from Michael Giacchino playing. It allowed guests to experience the new comfortable trains and we finally saw close up pictures of the new cars.

I am fully impressed by how they look and I have a suspicion Hyperspace Mountain is not definitive and we will soon see the return of De la Terre a la Lune.

Look familiar?
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(this picture come from a Space Mountain fan facebook page.)

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Notice the Moon Archer engraved on the soft restraint. If this is not a reference to the original Discovery Mountain/Space Mountain De la Terre a la Lune, I don't know is!

P.S. If the replacement music would have been the original De la Terre a la Lune soundtrack, I'd be in Paris right now writing this message!
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What was the concept of Mission 2 anyway?
 
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Absimilliard

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HMF said:
What was the concept of Mission 2 anyway?
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The idea was the Columbiad was recalibrated to send you further, beyond the Moon and into the farthest reaches of the Universe. To that end, they modified the Columbiad by enclosing the tunnel and bottom of the Colombiad and added some lights inside. You were launched from the bottom of the cannon, in turn reducing capacity by only allowing 2 trains on one station/4 trains on two stations versus 3 and 5 respectively before.

The ride had one set removed, the moon sweeper after the Sidewinder and many of the old props covered in black tarps. New projections were added in their place and the Super Nova projection that eventually found its way to Hong Kong Disneyland along with red lights now serve as the focal point on B Lift. The old Spark Trench, an effect that originally worked only for a few months when the ride opened, was redressed with new lights to make it look like the rocks are on fire. The old lightspeed tunnel at the end where the train reach 44 mph was wrapped in red neons for a cool effect.

The original trains were repainted and the ride restraints and headrests changed to the ones used on Rock n Roller Coaster.

Any other questions?
 
HMF

HMF

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Absimilliard said:
The idea was the Columbiad was recalibrated to send you further, beyond the Moon and into the farthest reaches of the Universe. To that end, they modified the Columbiad by enclosing the tunnel and bottom of the Colombiad and added some lights inside. You were launched from the bottom of the cannon, in turn reducing capacity by only allowing 2 trains on one station/4 trains on two stations versus 3 and 5 respectively before.

The ride had one set removed, the moon sweeper after the Sidewinder and many of the old props covered in black tarps. New projections were added in their place and the Super Nova projection that eventually found its way to Hong Kong Disneyland along with red lights now serve as the focal point on B Lift. The old Spark Trench, an effect that originally worked only for a few months when the ride opened, was redressed with new lights to make it look like the rocks are on fire. The old lightspeed tunnel at the end where the train reach 44 mph was wrapped in red neons for a cool effect.

The original trains were repainted and the ride restraints and headrests changed to the ones used on Rock n Roller Coaster.

Any other questions?
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Besides the obvious one. Is Hyperspace Permanent? Are there plans to restore the original mission and would the ride as it is now be considered Mission 2 or what is supposed to be?
 
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Absimilliard

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HMF said:
Besides the obvious one. Is Hyperspace Permanent? Are there plans to restore the original mission and would the ride as it is now be considered Mission 2 or what is supposed to be?
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The trains are the biggest hint that this was supposed to be a return to De la Terre a la Lune, but I have a feeling the Walt Disney Company had a say in having them change it to Star Wars. Disneyland Paris did not announce how long Hyperspace Mountain would last, but it is not permanent from what I hear.

A return to the exact original ride would not be possible due to the covered waiting line and removed Moon Sweeper, but the rest could be upgraded nicely using the Mission 2/Hyperspace Mountain infrastructure. When they upgraded Phantom Manor a few years ago, the singing busts went from having huge projectors and film hidden from view to tiny digital projectors in a fraction of the space. In that optic, while the original spark trench with its spark machines cannot return, I could imagine they could add digital mapping to make them appear to explode. Today's technology could bring an amazing upgraded vision of the original Jules Verne story.
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
CaptainAmerica said:
And the work flow is all sympatico with BAMTech, formerly MLBAM, which Disney just bought a big chunk of.
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Which Disney bought a YEAR ago and has not as yet pushed as much as an ad over it yet. As typical Disney does not know how to leverage tech assets.

But thats no surprise as Disney after nearly two decades has not figured out how to integrate

http://www.go.com


Yet - give em time maybe in a nother decade they might be able to integrate go.com ...
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

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flynnibus said:
Hey can you tell us about this again... I don't think anyone heard you the other 52 times in the last 3 days
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You understand the effect but the pixie dusters insisys that its 'separate pools of funding' and ESPN has no negative effect on the Parks is why I keep repeating this in an effort to get it through their thick skulls
 

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