A Spirited Perfect Ten

Funmeister

Well-Known Member
Because you apparently missed the part of the thread where he railed against anyone who was asking any questions whatsoever. It would be absurd to start another thread when all of the "evidence" is right here in this one.

If you don't like my or others posts, use the ignore feature. Like I am now because I don't feel like bothering to even read someone who is simply playing word games and fanning the fires.

SO WHAT? Are your feelings hurt? Come on man.

Oh ignore this! Cop out!
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Ok. I respect that. Then support what he says as truth or research to disprove what he is saying with what you find. Why keep recycling this calling him a liar? It's his thread in a PUBLIC BLOG! Start your own with your own theories. It's all good be Jesus enough with the witch hunt. He doesn't owe an explanation to anyone. Hell NO ONE owes ANYONE an explanation for anything on here. It's a freakin' socail bulletin board (with all due respect to Steve and everything he does here! ;) )
One cannot disprove questions, hypotheses, correlations or jokes that make up the bulk of the "story."
 

Funmeister

Well-Known Member
One cannot disprove questions, hypotheses, correlations or jokes that make up the bulk of the "story."

They can however create their own questions, hypotheses, correlations and jokes to make their own.

Besides the people who are asking for more "facts" are referring to them as just that...facts. Talk to AeX and his crew about that.
 

spacemt354

Chili's
Actually I think you have that wrong.

If you are going to make a claim on a message board, you better be able to back it up if you want folks to take you seriously. If you can't, then you shouldn't be making the claim on a message board.

And if the claim is so extreme in nature as this one, a message board isn't the place to do it, anyway.

That goes for both sides of this argument.

Do I think there is some truth to China pushing Disney out? Yes.
Do I think that some of this is coincidence and a tad blown out of proportion? Yes.

I'm not really picking a side, and I get the feeling a lot of people on here are in the middle as well. We want legitimate info, and we aren't going to jump on a bandwagon until everything is sorted out.

The monkey wrench into this whole thing is, as you correctly pointed out, this is not the best place to promote this info if it's substantial and you want it to go far. Too much gets swallowed up in the pages upon pages of back and forth. That was really what I was referring to in the first place.
Why would someone have to have info countering a claim to be involved in the discussion? Is it not enough to comment on lack of evidence or on leaps of logic that others are making?
See above.
 

LuvtheGoof

DVC Guru
Premium Member
Great! Then my challenge to you is prove him wrong and dispel the rumor.
So the story is that the HuffPost said, "This blogger's posts are no longer available on The Huffington Post due to inaccuracies in representations he made regarding his professional affiliations." My proof is in the fact that this was posted by the Huffington Post - who has written several articles casting Disney in an unfavorable light.

Now provide your proof that I am wrong. Quoting Spirit does not count.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
They can however create their own questions, hypotheses, correlations and jokes to make their own.

Besides the people who are asking for more "facts" are referring to them as just that...facts. Talk to AeX and his crew about that.
Because facts would help eliminate the alternative narratives that are sometimes ridiculously wrong or mostly right.

If that is the case then why not move on? lol People are pretty passionate about wanting more "facts" to back up questions, hypotheses, correlations and jokes. lol
Because people are interested in the subject matter. If you don't like people discussing a topic you can scroll right past or put people on ignore to create the bubble you desire.
 

Funmeister

Well-Known Member
Because facts would help eliminate the alternative narrative that are sometimes ridiculously wrong or mostly right.


Because people are interested in the subject matter. If you don't like people discussing a topic you can scroll right past or put people on ignore to create the bubble you desire.

Are they interested in the subject matter? or are they really interested in attacking Spirit?

To me I would agree with what you say that people may be more inclined to be interested in the content but when they are so critical of his delivery then it tells me there is more to it than that. The way he comes across to some should not matter if the the subject at hand is the true interest.

I understand what you are saying about the facts but if someone says something that they say is fact. No matter what anyone else says that person is going to believe what they said is indeed fact. Not going to change. (For a moment we are not debating the details of the arguments on this thread)

What is the point for those who disagree to continue to attack the poster, and their "facts," over and over again? If they have information that says something different then contribute that information or start their own thread.
 

Funmeister

Well-Known Member
So the story is that the HuffPost said, "This blogger's posts are no longer available on The Huffington Post due to inaccuracies in representations he made regarding his professional affiliations." My proof is in the fact that this was posted by the Huffington Post - who has written several articles casting Disney in an unfavorable light.

Now provide your proof that I am wrong. Quoting Spirit does not count.

You are missing the point. I'm not questioning you.
 

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
So the story is that the HuffPost said, "This blogger's posts are no longer available on The Huffington Post due to inaccuracies in representations he made regarding his professional affiliations." My proof is in the fact that this was posted by the Huffington Post - who has written several articles casting Disney in an unfavorable light.

Now provide your proof that I am wrong. Quoting Spirit does not count.

Side tangent. If you ever work for or with HuffPost, make sure you have a full-on contract spelling out exactly what you will and won't do.
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
What's really amazing here is how many people blindly follow one "man" on the internet that they have never met and for the most part know nothing about. He's posted a plethora of opinions, theories, and circumstantial evidence and attempted to connect the dots without any hard facts or sources. Yet people on here widely believe it to be proof and rather than wanting him to prove it they demand that the doubters disprove it. I hope at least some people see the problem with this.

And no. He doesn't owe anyone on here anything. But those on here owe it to themselves to seek out facts and ask for proof not just blindly believe it because they read it from some anonymous posters thread on the Internet. And while he doesn't owe any of us proof of his statements. The people and corporations that may be victims of his libel and defamation if his statements are not true may see things differently.

This isn't simply accusing them of taking too long to build an e-ticket or saving money by using plain napkins. He has accused people of fraud, bribery, misleading investors, and on more than one occasion sex crimes just to name a few. These are serious accusations that are probably best suited somewhere other than a Disney "fan" site. But if they are here they should be taken seriously and appropriately. Just believing them because you like the poster or because it is the popular thing to do is certainly not appropriate.
 

AEfx

Well-Known Member
I'm not really picking a side, and I get the feeling a lot of people on here are in the middle as well. We want legitimate info, and we aren't going to jump on a bandwagon until everything is sorted out.

The monkey wrench into this whole thing is, as you correctly pointed out, this is not the best place to promote this info if it's substantial and you want it to go far. Too much gets swallowed up in the pages upon pages of back and forth. That was really what I was referring to in the first place.

That's just it - I've been in the middle, too. But asking a few simple questions suddenly turned into this blasphemous act, and considering we still can't get the answers to them, and so much has been strung out at this point, and as you agree - logically, this isn't the way to do this even if it is absolutely true (which I've said many times, it may well be), doesn't help go to the side of legitimacy.

That, and the fact that the last day or two suddenly we have some brand new people to the discussion who have a suspiciously similarly BRANDED style, and yeah, I admit, my BS detector has been going off more and more.

Honestly, what I think is going on is that folks want so badly to be part of some "BIG" story that they are ignoring the last few hundred pages and just keep going with whatever the most recent narrative is. I can't blame folks, I guess, but the more this goes on and the more folks seemingly ignore reality while claiming that anyone who has a question just doesn't know what they are talking about, because, media corrupt, the newest iteration - like I said, I honestly want it to be true because I hate seeing folks I like and respect being taken for what is increasingly appearing to be a ride.
 

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