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[ford91exploder]

Well, tried to. That was the goal. But we agree they failed, and had the opposite effect.

But Disney is a business...

The great irony of course was WDW was 'Blue Ocean' until 'Mr Blue Ocean Bob Iger' got his claws into the company. Disney built the LAST E-ticket in Orlando the year before Iger showed up. Since then - zip.

 

[ford91exploder]

And before that there were rumors once upon a time that TW wanted to buy Disney.

Are you sure that was not Comcast ?

 

[HauntedMansionFLA]

Are you sure that was not Comcast ?

I remember the hostile takeover bid from Comcast.

 

[ford91exploder]

I remember the hostile takeover bid from Comcast.

We all do, in hindsight it might have been better had Comcast succeeded.

 

[HauntedMansionFLA]

We all do, in hindsight it might have been better had Comcast succeeded.

I guess it somewhat lead to their buying Universal. And members have stated that Iger was shopping the theme parks around for a buyer around 2007/2008.

 

[pax_65]

We all do, in hindsight it might have been better had Comcast succeeded.

Wow... some days you make me feel like a Pixie Duster. lol

I still have a shred of hope that Disney can revert back to it's old guest-focused ways. If a corporation like Comcast took over, I'd say that sliver of hope would be gone.

 

[ford91exploder]

Wow... some days you make me feel like a Pixie Duster. lol

I still have a shred of hope that Disney can revert back to it's old guest-focused ways. If a corporation like Comcast took over, I'd say that sliver of hope would be gone.

Look at the trajectories of the two companies

one is constantly working to improve quality of attractions and guest service and takes staff hiring seriously with an eye towards improving the guest experience and manages to open D-E ticket attractions every 18 months or so. Because of this the returns are stellar for their P&R group.

The other is making huge guest facing cuts coupled with massive price increases cutting hours at the park and has not opened new major attractions in the us for over a decade, staff is hired on 'do they have a pulse' basis and it's management entirely focused on pleasing wall st

Which Theme park company am I describing in each paragraph?

 

[LuvtheGoof]

Look at the trajectories of the two companies

one is constantly working to improve quality of attractions and guest service and takes staff hiring seriously with an eye towards improving the guest experience and manages to open D-E ticket attractions every 18 months or so. Because of this the returns are stellar for their P&R group.

The other is making huge guest facing cuts coupled with massive price increases cutting hours at the park and has not opened new major attractions in the us for over a decade, staff is hired on 'do they have a pulse' basis and it's management entirely focused on pleasing wall st

Which Theme park company am I describing in each paragraph?

You're not describing either company with any accuracy in either paragraph.

 

[HauntedMansionFLA]

Look at the trajectories of the two companies

one is constantly working to improve quality of attractions and guest service and takes staff hiring seriously with an eye towards improving the guest experience and manages to open D-E ticket attractions every 18 months or so. Because of this the returns are stellar for their P&R group.

The other is making huge guest facing cuts coupled with massive price increases cutting hours at the park and has not opened new major attractions in the us for over a decade, staff is hired on 'do they have a pulse' basis and it's management entirely focused on pleasing wall st

Which Theme park company am I describing in each paragraph?

Do you think it will get to the point that Disney starts to charge Moderate resort prices for people staying in the value resorts, charge deluxe for staying in a moderate resort and charge even more for the deluxe resorts? On top of that, if people say they won't stay on site - FP only for guest staying on property. Think they will push it that far?

 

[LuvtheGoof]

Do you think it will get to the point that Disney starts to charge Moderate resort prices for people staying in the value resorts, charge deluxe for staying in a moderate resort and charge even more for the deluxe resorts? On top of that, if people say they won't stay on site - FP only for guest staying on property. Think they will push it that far?

Please don't feed the crazy.

 

[HauntedMansionFLA]

Please don't feed the crazy.

opps

 

[SorcererMC]

Do you think it will get to the point that Disney starts to charge Moderate resort prices for people staying in the value resorts, charge deluxe for staying in a moderate resort and charge even more for the deluxe resorts? On top of that, if people say they won't stay on site - FP only for guest staying on property. Think they will push it that far?

I know your question wasn't directed at me, but I think it's a good one. Re: increasing hotel resort pricing structure - I could see that happening because ~56% domestic visitors to Florida are in the $75,000+ income bracket; there is increasing volume at the upper income levels and decreasing volume below it. (from VisitFL data)

 

[ford91exploder]

Do you think it will get to the point that Disney starts to charge Moderate resort prices for people staying in the value resorts, charge deluxe for staying in a moderate resort and charge even more for the deluxe resorts? On top of that, if people say they won't stay on site - FP only for guest staying on property. Think they will push it that far?

WDW Hotels are already overpriced for the market by a factor of at least 3x, I can see FP being a 'onsite only' perk, only onsite guests could have more than 3 FP's or FP's being 'free' for onsite guests and an upcharge option for 'day' guests and the last one I think is the most likely as it most closely tracks WDW's current mania for upcharge items..

 

[tirian]

Well, tried to. That was the goal. But we agree they failed, and had the opposite effect.

But Disney is a business...

I know you're being sarcastic, but I want to point out the people who defend bad decisions by saying, "Disney is a business! I'm satisfied as long as my snowflake can get her photo taken with Cinderella!" clearly have no idea how a real business operates.

 

[tirian]

WDW Hotels are already overpriced for the market by a factor of at least 3x, I can see FP being a 'onsite only' perk, only onsite guests could have more than 3 FP's or FP's being 'free' for onsite guests and an upcharge option for 'day' guests and the last one I think is the most likely as it most closely tracks WDW's current mania for upcharge items..

No kidding. Last week, I priced a week at the Poly and realized I can go to Europe for less than the overall package price.

 

[LuvtheGoof]

WDW Hotels are already overpriced for the market by a factor of at least 3x, I can see FP being a 'onsite only' perk, only onsite guests could have more than 3 FP's or FP's being 'free' for onsite guests and an upcharge option for 'day' guests and the last one I think is the most likely as it most closely tracks WDW's current mania for upcharge items..

Well, the 87% room occupancy for the entire year begs to differ. Most places would kill for that kind of occupancy. FP+ will never be monetized. Get real.

 

[LuvtheGoof]

No kidding. Last week, I priced a week at the Poly and realized I can go to Europe for less than the overall package price.

Really? Where, and what theme parks are you visiting there that compare to WDW?

 

[HauntedMansionFLA]

No kidding. Last week, I priced a week at the Poly and realized I can go to Europe for less than the overall package price.

I was shocked on how much prices have gone up in the past ten years. I did a double take when pricing the Poly in December

 

[ford91exploder]

No kidding. Last week, I priced a week at the Poly and realized I can go to Europe for less than the overall package price.

Or go to Bora Bora and actually be able to dive off your bungalow into a real lagoon and still pay about 2/3 of the Disney 'Pizza Hut Villa' price including airfare...

 

[ford91exploder]

Well, the 87% room occupancy for the entire year begs to differ. Most places would kill for that kind of occupancy. FP+ will never be monetized. Get real.

Until it is monetized,