A Spirited Dirty Dozen ...

RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

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WDW1974 said:
I don't know if there's a 10-year curse. I can look at Michael's second decade and see films like The Lion King, Hunchback of Notre Dame, Mulan, Tarzan, Lilo & Stitch (won't even talk Pixar films) ... I can see the creation of Disney Cruise Line and the explosive growth of Disney Theatrical ... I can see the opening of DAK ... and TDS ... I can see the building of BB ... and resorts like BW and CS and DAK Lodge and Grand Californian etc etc. ... Sure, there were problems. Major ones near the end with animation and some huge ones with P&R too. But there was so much good still in the darkest period.

I'm sure lovers of The Force Awakens and Civil War would use those as examples of how Iger is doing an amazing job as CEO.

But there's no doubt that Bob's ego is running the show and, to use your comparison, when Michael's ego was allowed to run things unchecked a lot of bad things happened. And it sure looks like the same is happening now.

I'm not sure if it's a 10-year thing. But I do think companies need fresh eyes, especially creative ones, regularly. And Disney does the opposite, no matter what division you're talking about. They shift deck chairs. That's all that it is. And very little real change happens.

And realize that if things had gone the way they were supposed to, Bob would already have his office cleared and we would have known his replacement either late last year or very early in 2016. But no ... we have two more years of this.
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I certainly agree that a company may need fresh eyes, but your post seems to indicate that Iger is a creative. I doubt that was your intent, but let's dispel people of that notion. Iger is an executive, he is not a creative.
 
RSoxNo1

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Mike S said:
Reminds me of that Frozen Summer Fun that was hastily put together a few years ago.
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That should definitely be the comparison, but the sing a long show worked out fairly well because they allowed a level of improv in it. The reality is, they should be prepared with some sort of temporary show or parade for any of their blockbusters. They used to do that and it would certainly help out DHS during construction time.
 
RSoxNo1

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WDW1974 said:
I admit it, one of my guilty pleasures is reading Derek Burgan's (known to me as "that dude who writes an outlet store column and can you believe it? HAS AN INTERN?!?!") monthly blogs about the treasures (and mostly trash) that gets dumped into O-Town's Disney outlet stores. I even sat having coffee doing a running tab of how much of his own money he was burn...I mean spending at said store recently ... I think I stopped at $75. Then I started to realize that being part of Len Testa's little empire must pay better than I thought.

He needs to expand coverage to Cast Connection (although TDO likely wouldn't like that) because it truly is astounding what crap Disney keeps in warehouses and then attempts to foist on its cast and ... Guests smart enough to know the outlets exist. There is stuff at both locales that never saw the light of day in an actual WDW retail location and it fascinates how Disney will attempt to sell things that other companies would have given away or thrown out.
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When the hell did he get an intern?
 
RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

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WDWFigment said:
My takeaway from this is totally different than Iger getting a "taste" of how things are done in China.

I suspect Disney is quite aware that this is occurring at individual stores, and they have about as much viable recourse here as they do against the endless parade of Mikey Mousses in Times Square (...in New York City, epicenter of capitalism and democracy...).

IMO, no legal action will occur, nor is there any intent to act. Rather, this is an implicit response to Wanda's statements from last week, and a clever one at that. If Iger responds to those remarks directly, it comes across as a petty ****ing match between two CEOs. Both come away looking bad. (Much as Iger did last week when his private FB post somehow leaked to TheWrap.)

This indirect response allows the media to connect Disney's statement and Wanda's; readers will look at the photo (overlook the statement about it being an individual store), and easily come to the conclusion that Wanda is a second-rate pretender puffing its chest with the prior statements. Wanda will be embarrassed on the worldwide stage for something it didn't even do.

As a corollary to that, anyone who thinks Disney didn't know IP rights are poorly enforced in China before beginning the SDL project is insane. It's not like Iger picked up the China Daily, saw that photo this morning, and used the IgerPhone to dial up Disney Legal. This is posturing, plain and simple.
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Instead they made Sprinkles remove a Mickey Mouse logo behind the counter...
 
RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

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rybarr87 said:
Forget it, Jake. This is Chinatown.
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RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

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gmajew said:
Nothing to do with Depp the first movie was just something different when it came out and was released at the right time. This was released in blockbuster season and this is not a blockbuster it needs to be around little competition.

Plus the entire weekend was way way down for the box office maybe people just were enjoying good weather in most of the country for a change over this holiday weekend as well. As X men did not hit expectations either.
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It wasn't anything different, it was typical Tim Burton crap.
 
Phineas

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PhotoDave219 said:
I respectfully disagree. I feel a giant crime was committed against Walt with this....
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I feel the same way. I consider Mary Poppins to be Walt's crowning achievement, as far as his movies go. It's a showcase of what his team was capable of, collecting everything they had learned up to that point in one satisfying film experience.

I feel similarly about the 20k remake/whatever you want to call it.
 
JediMasterMatt

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With the news about Mary Poppins 2, I'm even more excited for the possible sequel to Saving Mr. Banks for the real behind the scenes drama.

"The wind is from the Far East, the Chinese are moving in. Bob Iger knows because he's a Weathermen."

"Graft, grafity, graft, grafity, graft grafity graft... only the Weatherman knows where the missing money is at"

I'm no Richard Sherman, but, these lyrics practically write themselves.

I don't even need to re-write this song, the Simpsons already did it and it's perfect for modern Disney:


"Cut every corner" and add an upcharge on the side.
 

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